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Old 08-13-2007, 12:35 AM
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Default Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

PokerStars Game #11459347702: Tournament #57262301, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (3000/6000) - 2007/08/13 - 00:15:24 (ET)
Table '57262301 3' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: JCastle (75005 in chips)
Seat 2: ComeOnPhish (270879 in chips)
Seat 4: pairDboard21 (191166 in chips)
Seat 7: DNA2RNA (54382 in chips)
Seat 9: PearlJammer (268105 in chips)
JCastle: posts the ante 600
ComeOnPhish: posts the ante 600
pairDboard21: posts the ante 600
DNA2RNA: posts the ante 600
PearlJammer: posts the ante 600
PearlJammer: posts small blind 3000
JCastle: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DNA2RNA [3s 3c]
ComeOnPhish said, "your boy F he want bust me"
ComeOnPhish: folds
pairDboard21: folds


So 10 people left in 109+R, and I'm in 10 place. As I go to push this I see cards being dealt on the other table and watch someone bust. So now If I fold I automatically get to the final table. If I push, get called, and lose I get 10th

Does that change anything? or is it still a push

1st place 39,000
9th place 2,600
10th place 1,800

Note that there doesn't seem to be that big a difference between 9th and 10th
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Old 08-13-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

I'd still push w/ your stacksize.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

Def a push.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

I'm pretty sure it's a fold, actually, maybe depending on JC's call range (because Jammer is def. calling light). +cEV but -$EV.

somebody can do the math though...assume 2 mil chips in play and a 125K prize pool, seems close enough
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

almost certainly a fold, you'll be in late position next hand anyway
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Old 08-13-2007, 08:49 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

Very easy push. Push is very cEV+. No reason to play tighter now than at the final table, as the increase in prize money per place gets greater.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

uh i think this is a super easy shove
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

Your tableselection sucks
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

So we got 4 definite pushes and 2 definite folds.

I'll do the math and let u guys know what I come up with.

BTW does anybody know I good Equity Calculator for final tables. I downloaded an Excel one a while ago but it wont let me edit it without a password?
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: Final Table Bubble 109+R, bust on other table, still push?

How about a poll in lieu of maths? I fold - but don't expect any reasoning.
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