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Old 07-08-2007, 04:38 PM
Abramovic Abramovic is offline
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Default Re: Kinda common spot but one I still have trouble with

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This hand is so much easier if you c-bet $50-$60.

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Maybe so, but you're missing the point of the post.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: Kinda common spot but one I still have trouble with

How could you not c-bet? Not only does not c-betting put you in a tough spot, you would bet here w/ an Ace right? So you have to bet here w/ KK!!!! Obvoius c-bet imo.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Kinda common spot but one I still have trouble with

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This hand is so much easier if you c-bet $50-$60.

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Maybe so, but you're missing the point of the post.

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I don't like to try to catch bluffs with KK when an Ace has flopped. If the intention is to go to a showdown, and you've c/c the turn, what has changed on river that you won't call an all-in bet?

As played, I don't understand calling the turn and folding the river because I assumed hero called the turn to see the villain's actions on the river. This can be achieved by betting the flop and possibly winning it right there.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: Kinda common spot but one I still have trouble with

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This hand is so much easier if you c-bet $50-$60.

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Maybe so, but you're missing the point of the post.

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I don't like to try to catch bluffs with KK when an Ace has flopped. If the intention is to go to a showdown, and you've c/c the turn, what has changed on river that you won't call an all-in bet?

As played, I don't understand calling the turn and folding the river because I assumed hero called the turn to see the villain's actions on the river. This can be achieved by betting the flop and possible winning it right there.

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That's why I advocate calling the river
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: Kinda common spot but one I still have trouble with

I like this line a lot more if you take it with AK as well.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Kinda common spot but one I still have trouble with

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This hand is so much easier if you c-bet $50-$60.

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Maybe so, but you're missing the point of the post.

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I don't like to try to catch bluffs with KK when an Ace has flopped. If the intention is to go to a showdown, and you've c/c the turn, what has changed on river that you won't call an all-in bet?

As played, I don't understand calling the turn and folding the river because I assumed hero called the turn to see the villain's actions on the river. This can be achieved by betting the flop and possible winning it right there.

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That's why I advocate calling the river

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Lacking reads, I'm betting flop 99.999% of the time and following your line the other .001%. I'd have to be really certain that the villain is bluffing to c/c twice.

I feel like we're just hoping that the villain doesn't have an Ace; I don't like that.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:47 PM
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c bet def yes
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:49 PM
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I like this line a lot more if you take it with AK as well.

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I do sometimes obv but that doesn't matter because villain is unknown.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:51 PM
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OP - Remake thread w/ poll on who cbets and who doesnt. I would love to see this.
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Old 07-08-2007, 04:54 PM
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