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WTFFFF?
WTF is with this river play? Neither one of these players is terrible. Someone please explain this to me:
PokerStars Game #129834984419: Omaha Hi/Lo Limit ($15/$30) - 2007/10/12 - 19:16:21 (ET) Table 'Slipher' 10-max Seat #10 is the button Seat 1: DONGER ($980 in chips) Seat 2: ballbanger ($562.50 in chips) Seat 3: hoping4luck ($112 in chips) Seat 4: missmuffet ($243 in chips) Seat 5: viscount ($468 in chips) Seat 6: berdyfish ($896 in chips) Seat 7: DrCaligula ($361.50 in chips) Seat 8: Trackman7 ($662 in chips) Seat 9: lupatik ($594.50 in chips) Seat 10: 13Ghosts ($757 in chips) DONGER: posts small blind $10 ballbanger: posts big blind $15 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to DONGER [Ks Td 2s Ac] hoping4luck: folds missmuffet: raises $15 to $30 viscount: folds berdyfish: folds DrCaligula: calls $30 Trackman7: folds lupatik: folds 13Ghosts: calls $30 DONGER: calls $20 ballbanger: calls $15 *** FLOP *** [8s 6h Js] DONGER: checks ballbanger: checks missmuffet: bets $15 DrCaligula: raises $15 to $30 13Ghosts: calls $30 DONGER: raises $15 to $45 ballbanger: folds missmuffet: raises $15 to $60 Betting is capped DrCaligula: calls $30 13Ghosts: calls $30 DONGER: calls $15 *** TURN *** [8s 6h Js] [9c] DONGER: checks missmuffet: checks DrCaligula: bets $30 13Ghosts: raises $30 to $60 DONGER: calls $60 missmuffet: raises $30 to $90 DrCaligula: calls $60 13Ghosts: calls $30 DONGER: calls $30 *** RIVER *** [8s 6h Js 9c] [8d] DONGER: checks missmuffet: checks DrCaligula: checks 13Ghosts: bets $30 DONGER: folds missmuffet: raises $30 to $60 DrCaligula: folds 13Ghosts: calls $30 *** SHOW DOWN *** missmuffet: shows [As 7h 3s Jd] (HI: two pair, Jacks and Eights) 13Ghosts: mucks hand missmuffet collected $867 from pot No low hand qualified *** SUMMARY *** Total pot $870 | Rake $3 Board [8s 6h Js 9c 8d] Seat 1: DONGER (small blind) folded on the River Seat 2: ballbanger (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 3: hoping4luck folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: missmuffet showed [As 7h 3s Jd] and won ($867) with HI: two pair, Jacks and Eights Seat 5: viscount folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: berdyfish folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: DrCaligula folded on the River Seat 8: Trackman7 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: lupatik folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: 13Ghosts (button) mucked [3h 2d Ah 3d] |
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Re: WTFFFF?
Easy to read with MsMuffet. She was trying to get A2 hands to muck after the turn with her nut flush A3 draw. However I'm a little surprised with the raise with Jacks up. I simply would have called thinking anyone with a better hand would certainly call a raise.
Ghosts13 no clue. |
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Re: WTFFFF?
I understand everything but the river play. You missed 13ghosts' hand:
Seat 10: 13Ghosts (button) mucked [3h 2d Ah 3d] pocket threes good? |
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Re: WTFFFF?
Donger- Interesting.
My guess is neither of them believes the other. First 13Ghosts bluffs the river. Next missmuffet check-raises as a counter to the suspected bluff. Finally 13Ghosts suspects a bluff raise and calls. [ QUOTE ] Neither one of these players is terrible. [/ QUOTE ]That's what makes it interesting. Buzz |
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Re: WTFFFF?
Buzz - I guess MM was trying to clear out the field and get it HU with what 'she' thought was a bluff. In my opinion, her hand is too strong for that. For one thing, the 'field' is only one player and DRCaligula is tough to blow off a hand. I doubt he's folding anything beating jacks up in a pot this size.
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Re: WTFFFF?
I don't play at those limits but I watch pretty often. 13Ghosts is the biggest maniac I've seen-- it's always fun watching him play. I've seen him throwing in re-raises on the river with nothing and no reason to expect his opponent to fold. Yet my guess is that overall he wins at a pretty good rate because he gets paid off when he has something. In any case $15/30 is low for him. Anyone who has him in their PTO I would love to know what his win rate is.
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