25NL A8o - All in decision on flop with top 2 pair.

[Nightlight87]

CO was 6/3/1.33 over ~50 hands.
Button was 21/6/0.77 over ~50 hands.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)


($5.95)
SB ($7.15)
Hero ($26.05)
UTG ($16.85)
UTG+1 ($16.30)
MP1 ($5.45)
MP2 ($22.25)
CO ($4.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG calls $0.25, 3 folds, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) , , (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, UTG folds, CO raises to $2.25, Button raises to $5.7, SB folds, Hero folds, CO calls $2.30 (All-In).


Really not sure if I was right to fold here? I beat TPTK, other two pairs. But with the reraise and then another reraise I think I'm against a set most of the time. Anyone play differently, why?

Thanks

[AllTheCheese]

Omg, seriously? Please don't fold. They're not even full stacks.

[ship_it_trebek]

Yeah I'm getting it in here. None of them have >40BB. You'll find some draws and probably another A and other stupid hands.

[AlexB182]

Has button 5.95 at the start of the hand? HH is kind of mixed up...
If he is this short I'm pushing over the top.

[GrandMelon]

o my

[Sounded Simple]

(1) Invent time machine
(2) Go back in time to this hand
(3) Get all in
(4) Profit.

Please to be getting arrrrrrrr in always here.

You will see
- Any ace
- Flush draws
- K8
- A5 and 8%
a lot of the time here. Sometimes they have sets but you still have outs.

[Nightlight87]

Hmm I think im getting about 2.5:1 odds on a call (Didnt actually calculate this at the time tho [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]). And with the mid-short stacks I do expect to so TPTK, two pairs fairly often. But the reraise threw me off a bit and I made a bad call, o well will play better next time.

CO won with AJo or something like that.

Thanks everyone =)

[Flups]

Against those mini-stacks I might even call with AQ and better. Most of the time you'll see 1-pairs and draws here, and if one of them has a set, oh well, good for him and lucky for you he was short... If button OTO would have had a full stack, then the decision would be a really tough one. Then it's push or fold on this drawy of a flop.

[Albert Moulton]

All the stacks are so short that you should be happy to get all in on the flop. You'll see all kinds of worse hands than top 2-pair to make an all-in here +EV.

[Xanthro]

You were so far ahead here it's not funny. It's NL25, people go all in Top pair NO KICKER.

You'll see crap like 2c3c calling the all in here.

67o is a huge part of everyone's range, as it A5. Sure, you might be up against 88 or 55, but your are far more often facing just Top pair (and it's not AK here) or A5 or 67.

Without some specific reads, it's unwise to fold top two at NL25. Any two will be all in everytime, top pair will be all in most of the time, and even middle and bottom pair call all ins.