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#11
04-24-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not a huge fan of the preflop raise, I'd just get in cheap for a buck with a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Preflop is obv perfect. [/ QUOTE ] Um, yeah, cause you isolated the donk with a powerhouse like KJo? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol at not raising KJo with position against a fish like this. this whole hand is standard and well played. [/ QUOTE ] I think y'all are overestimating the strength of KJo when you have minimal steal equity (which I assume is the case against this dude), even in position. Why try to play a big pot with it? But whatever, glad you got an LOL out of it. You probably would have outright died if I had suggested a play that was actually bad. [/ QUOTE ] Personally I would raise here 95% of the time. If I am going to play a hand from my button I am not going to limp behind. I would rather fold the KJ than limp. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I raise 95% of the time also vs. a random CO limp. But it seems kinda pointless against this guy. 
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#12
04-24-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not a huge fan of the preflop raise, I'd just get in cheap for a buck with a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Preflop is obv perfect. [/ QUOTE ] Um, yeah, cause you isolated the donk with a powerhouse like KJo? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol at not raising KJo with position against a fish like this. this whole hand is standard and well played. [/ QUOTE ] I think y'all are overestimating the strength of KJo when you have minimal steal equity (which I assume is the case against this dude), even in position. Why try to play a big pot with it? But whatever, glad you got an LOL out of it. You probably would have outright died if I had suggested a play that was actually bad. [/ QUOTE ] You are beginning to embarass yourself. Preflop is as standard as it gets.
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#13
04-24-2007, 06:34 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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I think you have to bet that turn to see where you are at. Without betting the turn, I would have a very hard time calling on the river, unless I had a good read on this guy and could put him on a bluff. I believe I would bet the turn.. Fold to reraise If he called the turn, Fold to a good sized lead bet on river. Otherwise check the river. [/ QUOTE ] This is a very bad way to play against a guy like this (very aggro donk). If you check the turn he'll bluff about 110% of his hands on the river. If you bet the turn he'll fold a lot of hands, check-raise with his monsters and some bluffs.
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#14
04-24-2007, 06:35 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not a huge fan of the preflop raise, I'd just get in cheap for a buck with a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Preflop is obv perfect. [/ QUOTE ] Um, yeah, cause you isolated the donk with a powerhouse like KJo? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol at not raising KJo with position against a fish like this. this whole hand is standard and well played. [/ QUOTE ] I think y'all are overestimating the strength of KJo when you have minimal steal equity (which I assume is the case against this dude), even in position. Why try to play a big pot with it? But whatever, glad you got an LOL out of it. You probably would have outright died if I had suggested a play that was actually bad. [/ QUOTE ] Personally I would raise here 95% of the time. If I am going to play a hand from my button I am not going to limp behind. I would rather fold the KJ than limp. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I raise 95% of the time also vs. a random CO limp. But it seems kinda pointless against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] Because his stats make you think he's good!? Explain.
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#15
04-24-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not a huge fan of the preflop raise, I'd just get in cheap for a buck with a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Preflop is obv perfect. [/ QUOTE ] Um, yeah, cause you isolated the donk with a powerhouse like KJo? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol at not raising KJo with position against a fish like this. this whole hand is standard and well played. [/ QUOTE ] I think y'all are overestimating the strength of KJo when you have minimal steal equity (which I assume is the case against this dude), even in position. Why try to play a big pot with it? But whatever, glad you got an LOL out of it. You probably would have outright died if I had suggested a play that was actually bad. [/ QUOTE ] You are beginning to embarass yourself. Every street is as standard as it gets. [/ QUOTE ]
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#18
04-24-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not a huge fan of the preflop raise, I'd just get in cheap for a buck with a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Preflop is obv perfect. [/ QUOTE ] Um, yeah, cause you isolated the donk with a powerhouse like KJo? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol at not raising KJo with position against a fish like this. this whole hand is standard and well played. [/ QUOTE ] I think y'all are overestimating the strength of KJo when you have minimal steal equity (which I assume is the case against this dude), even in position. Why try to play a big pot with it? But whatever, glad you got an LOL out of it. You probably would have outright died if I had suggested a play that was actually bad. [/ QUOTE ] You are beginning to embarass yourself. Preflop is as standard as it gets. [/ QUOTE ] LOL this is a tiny mistake if it is one at all. Save it for someone who cares. Learn the real reasons behind "standard" plays and you might just improve your game.
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#19
04-24-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Not a huge fan of the preflop raise, I'd just get in cheap for a buck with a very marginal hand. The rest looks fine to me. [/ QUOTE ] Preflop is obv perfect. [/ QUOTE ] Um, yeah, cause you isolated the donk with a powerhouse like KJo? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] lol at not raising KJo with position against a fish like this. this whole hand is standard and well played. [/ QUOTE ] I think y'all are overestimating the strength of KJo when you have minimal steal equity (which I assume is the case against this dude), even in position. Why try to play a big pot with it? But whatever, glad you got an LOL out of it. You probably would have outright died if I had suggested a play that was actually bad. [/ QUOTE ] Personally I would raise here 95% of the time. If I am going to play a hand from my button I am not going to limp behind. I would rather fold the KJ than limp. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I raise 95% of the time also vs. a random CO limp. But it seems kinda pointless against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] Because his stats make you think he's good!? Explain. [/ QUOTE ] I win a bunch of money either way if I hit the flop hard. If not, I'm in and out cheap, or maybe win a little something by playing in position, instead of getting into a pissing contest with a bloated pot and a quite marginal hand.
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#20
04-24-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: NL100 : KJ against LAGdonk
Busto, I think a bet preflop is particularly effective v this villain. You say it's a marginal hand, but I think it probably dominates a lot of villain's holdings.
56/25 is opening all better kings and all better jacks. He may limp in with Jxs+.J8o-QJo, Kxs+,K9/KT, making our hand relatively strong. Obviously we dont want to play a huge pot, but it puts us in a considerably stronger position. Raising increases the likelihood of playing HU v donk in position, rather than playing a small pot with a hand which doesnt fair great multiway. The benefits of raising are huge here.
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