2 hands vs punketty, 10/20 Stars

Jackal69 · #1 05-03-2007, 12:54 PM

ok so first hand little history, weve been staying out of each others way and its only a few rounds in but ive been raising a lot pf... this is the first time Ive threebet him though. Theres an utg poster and i suspect this is Samo from posts here and so on but he doesnt know that...

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BB ($1690)
UTG ($1200)
Button ($2015.50)
Hero ($2627)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $20.
UTG (poster) checks, Button raises to $70, Hero raises to $240, 1 fold, UTG folds, Button calls $170.

Flop: ($520) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $400, Button raises to $1200, Hero ??? 

this one is only weird as there has just been some convo between us on the other table about his identity, so he knows i think he may be samo if that changes anything... have been cbetting a lot so he may also suspect pot control etc here.

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UTG ($1137)
MP ($922)
Hero ($1810)
Button ($2697)
SB ($1961.50)
BB ($2567)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $100, 2 folds, BB calls $80, UTG folds.

Flop: ($230) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($230) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $156, Hero calls $156.

River: ($542) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $500, Hero ???

MDMA · #2 05-03-2007, 01:17 PM

1st is obviously an instapush...

2nd one I fold

Ansky · #3 05-03-2007, 01:24 PM

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1st is obviously an instapush...

2nd one I fold

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re: the first hand, do you think samo is ever valueraising a worse hand? cause i dont

edit: I don't disagree that its a shove tho.

xxThe_Lebowskixx · #4 05-03-2007, 03:55 PM

if this is the first time you 3 bet, i lean towards folding hand #1.

hand #2 is close either way

king_of_drafts · #5 05-03-2007, 03:59 PM

id call 1 fold 2

Jackal69 · #6 05-03-2007, 04:04 PM

[ QUOTE ]
1st is obviously an instapush...

2nd one I fold

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fwiw we discussed hand 1 afterwards and he thought it was pretty close...

donkey · #7 05-03-2007, 04:27 PM

1. push
2. call

aejones · #8 05-03-2007, 05:11 PM

push in hand one, he's got a draw here a lot.

hand two is pretty classic "you can't have that strong of a made hand" but i'd still probably fold

-Skeme- · #9 05-03-2007, 05:14 PM

Why can't he have anything big in Hand 2?

DJ Sensei · #10 05-03-2007, 05:37 PM

push 1 as most of his range here is semibluffs (i think?), and fold 2, he's taking you to valuetown. the board being that drawy doesnt help, but if he was betting just to fold out missed draws he wouldnt have to bet so big.