New starting hand charts?

[evilgenius]

I am a winning player at .10/.20 2bb/100 40k and I am losing about .5bb/100 at .25/.50 10k. Very big swings...I assume its leaks in my game.

I still win more pots than i lose but it seems the wins are smaller than the losses. Once again leaks...

The tables seem to get tight real quick and i was comfortable playing tag games but recently I seem to be having problems.

Has anyone come up with a sshe starting hand chart for these new uber tight games? I find it hard to believe that 2 hand charts- loose and tight can account for the different degrees of each. It seems that very few loose tables exist anymore and tight is kinda general. In particular I mean the uber tight games.

Yes I used the word "uber" [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

I play slightly more loose than reccommended but I was able to make that up post flop. So yes I agree i need to play less hands. So here I am asking if the tight chart in sshe still is as valid as before? Do we need a couple tweaks?

What's up Mason?

[HollywoodDB]

It sounds like you anwered the question on your own in the last paragraph of your post. You have 50k hands in, and probably don't need a chart. Focus on your post flop.

[Chicago]

EvilGenius,

If your playing on Stars I think I know you fairly well. I'd probably just say to tighten up a little bit but from what I've seen playing with you you are a solid player and maybe some of this is just game selection and adapting to the style of the table ur playing. Feel free to PM whenever as well.

[evilgenius]

Yea you probably do know me as my name is pretty similar there. About the game selection I think you are right. I have the tendency to prefer the tighter tables as I understand the players and how they think. Plus I like testing myself against them. Not sure if i'm just on a downswing or what. I cleared a party $40 bonus the other day at the 1/2 tables and did ok made 14 in profit. I will be transfering that to stars as I dont have a 1/2 BR yet.

Adjusting to tables is something I have been working on. I think I am improving. I have lost most of the money on loose tables where my hands just havent been holding up lately.

My problem with table selection is deciding when to leave when i finally have some reads and the table tightens up. I see a juicy 40-50 table and I leave for it and by the time PT kicks in its another 22...

[xJames2112]

Wow! .25/.50 is ubber tight?? I haven't played at this level in about a year, but when I played those games were loose and soft. I didn't have to do much table selection to find a good game.

[OziBattler]

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Wow! .25/.50 is ubber tight?? I haven't played at this level in about a year, but when I played those games were loose and soft. I didn't have to do much table selection to find a good game.

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I agree. I just took this screenshot...2 full tables under 30% to the flop and many in 50+ range.

[pegboy]

Evil,

Here's something for you to splash around with at those levels. Perhaps it will gain some commentary. I came accross it a while back.

<u>Early Position</u>

Raise first in &gt; AA-TT,(99 &amp; 88 in tight blind winning games), AKs, AQs, AJs, AK, AQ,
Play &gt; 99-77, ATs, KQs, KJs, (QJs, QTs, JTs, T9s, KQ in passive games)

Raise against callers &gt; AA-TT, AKs-AJs, AK, AQ

Against a raise &gt; call &gt; AKs, AQs, AJs
Reraise &gt; AA-TT, AK

<u>Middle Position</u>

Raise first in &gt; AA-66, AKs-ATs, KQs-KJs, QJs, JTs, AK-AT
Play &gt; 88-66, ATs-A2s, KQs-KTs, QJs, QTs, JTs, T9s AJ, KQ, KJ

Raise against callers &gt; AA-99, AKs-AJs, AK, AQ

Against a raise &gt; call &gt; AKs-AJs, KQs
Reraise &gt; AA-TT, AK

<u>Late Position</u>

Raise first in &gt; Pairs, Aces, 2 big cards 9 and up,
&gt; slowplay AA

Play &gt; 88-55(44-2 with limpers), A9s-A2s, KTs, K9s, QJs-Q9s, JTs-J9s, T9s, AJ, AT, KQ-KT, QJ, QT, JT
Button Only &gt; T8s, 98s, 97s, 87s, 86s, 76s, 75s, 65s, 54s,

Raise against callers &gt; AA-99, AKs-ATs, KQs, KJs, QJs, QTs, JTs, T9s, 98s, AK, AQ

Against a raise &gt; call &gt; AKs-AJs, KQs
Reraise &gt; AA-TT, AK

Against a raise and cold callers &gt; call &gt; JJ-22, AKs-A2s, KQs, KJs, QJs, JTs, T9s, 98s
Raise &gt; AA-QQ, AK

I do agree with the above poster. Post Flop is where the game is played.

[bottomset]

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Late Position


&gt; slowplay AA

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hahahaha

charts suck

[evilgenius]

i was kidding but slow play aces? I cant use this chart....

[BogusRogus]

Try switching to paradise .25-.50 and use the loose chart.