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Old 06-06-2007, 04:43 PM
Acevader Acevader is offline
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Default NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

I understand the merits of just folding PF here but I'm generally very tight in SB and like to let the BB know that I'm not going to just auto-fold any non-premuim hand to him all of the time.

Villain is 19/10/1.5 (290) and whilst I've not shown a hand down at this table I've not been very active so he should have no reason to suspect I'll get out of line.

I fear there will be screams of 'fold' preflop so lets not debate that one in and out. Flop, turn, river? Spew, spew, spew or good poker. By the river I was fairly certain of villain's hand.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $862.00</font>
BB: $1,318.75
UTG: $2,047.95
CO: $987.00
BTN: $2,873.30

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $35.00</font>, BB calls $25.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($70) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $50.00</font>, BB calls $50.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($170) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $145.00</font>, BB calls $145.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($460) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $350.00</font>
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:47 PM
DLizzle DLizzle is offline
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

it would take a misclick for me to fold preflop. flop standard, turn good, river i'd just c/f, maybe call once in a while to pick off a bluff. he's calling everything that beats you and folding everything worse, no one ever folds 2nd pair in a blind battle
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:58 PM
MATT111 MATT111 is offline
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

A turn fold is probably best here imo. The river bet is really bad.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:01 PM
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

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A turn fold is probably best here imo. The river bet is really bad.

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this is far from the worst 3barrel i've seen and player desc/own image makes it a good time.

i'd presume he'd raise with a K on the turn and fold a 10 on the river. if so, we should bet
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

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A turn fold is probably best here imo. The river bet is really bad.

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this is far from the worst 3barrel i've seen and player desc/own image makes it a good time.

i'd presume he'd raise with a K on the turn and fold a 10 on the river. if so, we should bet

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Misread the action. Thought we c/called turn. Still I don`t think there`s much value in the river bet.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

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A turn fold is probably best here imo. The river bet is really bad.

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this is far from the worst 3barrel i've seen and player desc/own image makes it a good time.

i'd presume he'd raise with a K on the turn and fold a 10 on the river. if so, we should bet

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Misread the action. Thought we c/called turn. Still I don`t think there`s much value in the river bet.

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i dont think this is a value bet. i think hes trying to get him to fold a ten
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:12 PM
wrkingtobegreat wrkingtobegreat is offline
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

*grunch* I think the third barrel will get called alot based on his flop and turn calls. I think other than possibly the flop, this is all spew.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

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A turn fold is probably best here imo. The river bet is really bad.

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this is far from the worst 3barrel i've seen and player desc/own image makes it a good time.

i'd presume he'd raise with a K on the turn and fold a 10 on the river. if so, we should bet

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Misread the action. Thought we c/called turn. Still I don`t think there`s much value in the river bet.

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i dont think this is a value bet. i think hes trying to get him to fold a ten

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Yea. I see that. Totally read dependent then.
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

wtf @ open folding A9o sb
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: NL$1000| Is this a terrible or sound play from me?

At the river I was very confident that villain had a 10. I'd never seen him in this situation before so didn't have a specific read but I felt a third show of strength that looks like it's pricing a ten in would induce a fold.

He had Q10, called and won the hand

I've tried to put myself in his shoes whilst looking back over the hand and I'm totally in two minds. Using 2nd level thinking Q10 should only ever expect his opponent to have AA,Kx, fh or a bluff. QQ-JJ, A10, etc would all check/sd or check/call to snap off bluffs. I can see how I'd fold Q10 there but also how I'd call it.

I feel my play up to the river was fine. I don't think my river bet was as much of a spew as some of you do as I do think I can get a 10 to pack there a reasonable amount of the time. I can't say how often yet though so I'll put this down to experience and monitor it.
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