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Old 08-04-2007, 06:08 PM
TheEye TheEye is offline
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Default Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

Hello everybody.

This is what happened some time ago.
After the end of a tourney the winner(who actually kicked me out of the final table and got a prize worth $20k) tranferred to my account $1000 which i believed was his goodwill and I was thankful to him. However 5 minutes later i receive an email from pokerstars saying that, the transfer was a mistake and was intented for another player with a similar username, so they took the money out of my account.
I wrote back to pokerstars(as i believe i should) telling them that they could not just take money out of my account without my permission because supposedly a player made a mistake, as mistakes in poker involving real money cannot be rectified.
Suppose i was playing 100/200 nlhm and by mistake I call my A high for $10k in a $10k pot against someone elses quads..or even better, suppose a stud session where my opponents open cards beat my best hand however i call his bet on the river does that make me eligible to request from pokerstars to credit back my money because i made a mistake?I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

what do you think?
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:12 PM
gordongecko gordongecko is offline
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

They can do whatever they want with your funds, I think their tos pretty much says so, not to mention the fact that even if they are in the wrong - they are in another [censored] country etc. In this case though it really was just a fluke, why are you being so cunty about someones mistake being fixed, its not like you won the money or something, it was found money in the first place.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:16 PM
antisocialgrace antisocialgrace is offline
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

how would you feel if you were the player it was intended for? maybe they made a deal. i you really think this way I would hate to know you.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:17 PM
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

well dude,
as i learned since i was a kid, "founder keeper", and that is a general notion. What do you mean they can do anything they want with my funds? how can i trust them if they can dig their hands in my pocket whenever they want to? whether it was a fluke or not people get lucky and you can not take that away from them
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

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what do you think?

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I think your example sucks. You're talking apples and oranges now. This didn't happen during a hand. It's an interaccount transfer.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:19 PM
Guthrie Guthrie is offline
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

If someone accidentally deposits $1,000 into your bank account, then immediately notifies the bank of the error, do you really think the bank will let you keep the money?
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:20 PM
gordongecko gordongecko is offline
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

then dont trust them and play at another site, you didnt win the money, so I doubt you will get much sympathy here, since you did absolutely nothing to deserve it in the first place.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:21 PM
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

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If someone accidentally deposits $1,000 into your bank account, then immediately notifies the bank of the error, do you really think the bank will let you keep the money?

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If you correctly cite the "founder keeper" rule, they will.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:29 PM
cmyr cmyr is offline
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

it's true, this was set as legal precedent in the Supreme Court's famous Founder v. Keeper ruling in the early 30s.
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Old 08-04-2007, 06:32 PM
MarkGreb MarkGreb is offline
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Default Re: Does Pokerstars have the right to take money out of my account?

The "founder keeper" rule is the basis of civilized society.
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