NL200: KK vs Villain Mini 4bet.

[PhOENiX_111]

villain runs 32/9/2 at 869 hands. He playes really strange. MR all over the place.
Should I have 5bet him PF? As played, is this a call?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $197
Hero (BTN): $196
SB: $89.95
BB: $247.50
UTG: $63.45
UTG+1: $197.80
MP1: $59.40
MP2: $118.30

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $4</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $4, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $32</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($71) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $165.80 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?

[ranka]

I would call.

[PhOENiX_111]

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I would call.

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um...why? You gotta explain better than 3 words.

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You beat : QQ AK AJ

Beats you : AA JJ 1010

Unlikely to have AJ in this case. Possible bluff with AK but I doubt it.

I would still call given his stats.

[ranka]

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I would call.

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um...why? You gotta explain better than 3 words.

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Sorry, I misread the board, dunno, looked it was J8J, 2 clubs. But still I think I call. He push with set (JJ,TT), QQ+, AK, AQ.

But I think I see QQ/AK here most of the times. Even AcQc is possible.

[Vecernicek]

Why didn't you 5-bet preflop? I think your answer to that question might help you decide what the best play on the flop is.

[BT2]

fold unless he is donkish. not sure what "strange" means exactly. if it means tricky and unusual fold. if it means donkish i guess you can call, but expect to lose to TT, JJ, or most likely AA a good % of the time.

[PhOENiX_111]

i would consider MR utg pretty strange. Also also he just shoves more than two times the pot after Min 4bet, i have never seen this before, so i really didnt know what to do in this spot.

[ASPoker8]

I would 5bet to 90 cuz hes a clown and you want him to give you his money and this way you get his money because he never folds pf and rarely folds flop since u shove 100 into like 180

[SABR42]

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I would 5bet to 90 cuz hes a clown and you want him to give you his money and this way you get his money because he never folds pf and rarely folds flop since u shove 100 into like 180

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Every time I try to "lure them in" like this the flop inevitably comes A-Q-x. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]