What do I beat? 5/10 online

DosXX · #1 10-11-2007, 11:03 PM

Villain is a 15/7.5/1

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.20 BB

All streets were probably played wrong, discuss.

dragon14 · #2 10-12-2007, 12:10 AM

I would cap PF, you have position and the 3rd best starting hand.

Secondly, I would raise the flop the way you played it. Your flush draw is likely good if it hits and there's a good chance your queens are still good as well. I'd be willing to cap the flop.

An opponent with the As or Ks with a K or J kicker or a busted flush draw or a single T are all possibilities for the villain. Jacks with the Js are possible as well.

I think your hand is a powerhouse until the river where its possible he got there but I would call down.

Niediam · #3 10-12-2007, 12:33 AM

You beat approximately 20 billion hands.

One Outer · #4 10-12-2007, 12:34 AM

Cap PF. Why didn't you? You have position and a bitchin' hand.

As played, raise flop. This makes the hand easier to play later. Normally, I would say that a flop raise will give you an idea about where you're at and whether or not you have to go to showdown (which it will), but given the monotone flop you're kind of tied at the hip to at least seeing the river. As it is, it looks like you are misapplying the wa/wb concept. It that what you're doing?

Turn completely changes if you raise the flop, so I can't really comment there. As played, I think you must pay off the river. Unfortunately, you never raised villain, so you have no idea where you're at. The pot is big, and I don't think you can fold for one more bet given that you haven't narrowed his range enough to make folding a serious consideration.

StrictlyStrategy · #5 10-12-2007, 01:42 AM

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You beat approximately 20 billion hands.

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I just stoved it, it is slightly closer to 18 billion hands actually.

One Outer · #6 10-12-2007, 01:43 AM

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You beat approximately 20 billion hands.

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I just stoved it, it is slightly closer to 18 billion hands actually.

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NH

Bob T. · #7 10-12-2007, 02:08 AM

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River: (6.20 BB) K (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.20 BB

All streets were probably played wrong, discuss.

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Ewwww. I don't know about the other streets, but I don't like this one much.

I think you still might be up against AQs, AJs, and pocket Jacks. At least often enough to call here.

numbnuts007 · #8 10-12-2007, 02:35 PM

I cap pf.

As played, raise the flop.

If 3-bet on the flop call down. If called on the flop, bet the turn and river.

Call the river even with the K hitting.

DosXX · #9 10-12-2007, 02:47 PM

Villain is 15/7.5 what is his preflop 3-betting range?

He also has an AF of 1. What hands are in that range he bets the river with that we beat?

numbnuts007 · #10 10-12-2007, 03:04 PM

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Villain is 15/7.5 what is his preflop 3-betting range?

He also has an AF of 1. What hands are in that range he bets the river with that we beat?

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QQ, JJ, 99, tons of hands with the As and Ks, lots of hands with a 10 especially if the other card is a spade, lots of hands.