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Old 11-30-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

This is a great spot to 'block bet' the turn in order to get a free showdown. If your turn bet gets raised it is an easy fold. If you are debating calling this sized bet, then wouldn't you be better off making it and have him debate it? And coming from you in position with a street left to act, he may be more hesitant to go forward. Lastly, it would be nice win or lose, to have this hand go to showdown to give you an idea of what type of hand he is playing like this. Good for future meta and what have you.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

thats my problem i sometimes just go on auto pilot and dont think about it. If i had thought about it i would folded prolly, but sometimes i want to make too big folds so wanted to check what MSNL thought of it. Good point about turn bet here.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:12 PM
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This is a great spot to 'block bet' the turn in order to get a free showdown. If your turn bet gets raised it is an easy fold. If you are debating calling this sized bet, then wouldn't you be better off making it and have him debate it? And coming from you in position with a street left to act, he may be more hesitant to go forward. Lastly, it would be nice win or lose, to have this hand go to showdown to give you an idea of what type of hand he is playing like this. Good for future meta and what have you.

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Hahahaha.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

Aislephive,

Please don't be a little bitch. If you disagree with what I say then say so. No need for that crap. That is all.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:54 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

what's ironic is that sort of style of posting is supposedly aislphive's biggest pet peeve
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

Hmm...

ikestoys 3 betting range (just guessing from his preflop stats): AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ

Flop: he could be betting with any of his PF range.

Turn: I think he would check with anything except JJ here. Maybe he was going for the C/R with AA, KK, QQ, 99, AQ, or KQ. Maybe he has just given up with AK, AJ, KJ.

to pokerstove we go...

TT vs range has 60% equity (WTF, though it would be lower), so call.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

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Hmm...

ikestoys 3 betting range (just guessing from his preflop stats): AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ

Flop: he could be betting with any of his PF range.

Turn: I think he would check with anything except JJ here. Maybe he was going for the C/R with AA, KK, QQ, 99, AQ, or KQ. Maybe he has just given up with AK, AJ, KJ.

to pokerstove we go...

TT vs range has 60% equity (WTF, though it would be lower), so call.

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I have never played with him, but I GUARANTEE that his 3-betting range is wider than that...
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:40 PM
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Hmm...

ikestoys 3 betting range (just guessing from his preflop stats): AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, 99, AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, KJ

Flop: he could be betting with any of his PF range.

Turn: I think he would check with anything except JJ here. Maybe he was going for the C/R with AA, KK, QQ, 99, AQ, or KQ. Maybe he has just given up with AK, AJ, KJ.

to pokerstove we go...

TT vs range has 60% equity (WTF, though it would be lower), so call.

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I have never played with him, but I GUARANTEE that his 3-betting range is wider than that...

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I guess that makes calling an even better option then.
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 hand vs ikestoys

ike wouldn't bluff here. Fold.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:12 PM
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Aislephive,

Please don't be a little bitch. If you disagree with what I say then say so. No need for that crap. That is all.

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How can bet/folding the turn possibly be good? Seriously. You're not getting called by worse that often, villain may bluff shove (doubtful but possible) over our bet. You're betting for no reason other than to protect against a hand that his 6 outs. That my friend is a bad bet.

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what's ironic is that sort of style of posting is supposedly aislphive's biggest pet peeve

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No it's not. My pet peeve is you making random comments directed at me in a douchey manner, like the one above.
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