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Old 10-27-2007, 08:15 AM
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Default A Fresh Start

Hey guys,
I am playing poker for over 3 years now. I started playing limit hold'em but eventually shifted to no-limit SNGs and MTTs. I did okay and built a reasonable bankroll playing in these tournaments.

Even though I enjoy playing SNGs and MTTs, my long-term goal is to become a very successful limit player.

At the time I quit playing limit hold'em (almost 2 years ago) I was playing 5/10 (with some 3/6 6max) and I was a breakeven player.

Today, I have more than enough bankroll to play in a 5/10 game but I want to prove myself that I can beat this level before I advance any further. In other words, I want to improve my limit game both theoretically and practically.

Below are the books that I have in "my poker archive" regarding to limit hold'em;

1) Winning Low limit Hold'em by Lee Jones
2) The Theory of Poker by David Sklansky
3) Inside the Poker Mind by John Feeney
4) Small Stakes Hold'em by Ed Miller, David Sklansky, Mason Malmuth
5) Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players by David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth
6) Super System 2 (Limit section by Jennifer Harman)
7) Internet Texas Hold'em by Matthew Hilger
8) Middle Limit Holdem Poker by Bob Ciaffone and Jim Brier
9) Weighing the Odds in Hold'em Poker by King Yao
10) Winning in Tough Hold'em Games by Stoxtrader and Zobags
11) How Good is Your Limit Hold'em? by Byron Jacobs and Jim Brier
12) Advanced Limit Hold'em Strategy by Barry Tanenbaum

I have read the first 4 books and mostly skimmed through the other ones.

I am a patient person who wants to study the game before (and during) I hit the limit tables again.
But I am not sure which book should I be reading first. In which order would you prefer to read these books? Any books that you wouldnt even bother reading?

It would be great if some of you can point me to right direction by saying "that book is good for x limits only" or "you should definitely read x book in order to compete in a 5/10 game" etc.

Thank you
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:40 AM
leo doc leo doc is offline
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Default Re: A Fresh Start

1) Winning Low limit Hold'em by Lee Jones
2) The Theory of Poker by David Sklansky
3) Inside the Poker Mind by John Feeney
4) Small Stakes Hold'em by Ed Miller, David Sklansky, Mason Malmuth
5) Hold'em Poker for Advanced Players by David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth
6) Super System 2 (Limit section by Jennifer Harman)
7) Internet Texas Hold'em by Matthew Hilger
8) Middle Limit Holdem Poker by Bob Ciaffone and Jim Brier
9) Weighing the Odds in Hold'em Poker by King Yao
10) Winning in Tough Hold'em Games by Stoxtrader and Zobags
11) How Good is Your Limit Hold'em? by Byron Jacobs and Jim Brier
12) Advanced Limit Hold'em Strategy by Barry Tanenbaum

OP, can I assume this is mostly for internet play? If so, be aware that the LHE games have become much tougher in the past two years. That said, I think Stox's book is likely the most relevant now, especially if you're going to be playing 6-max. A few months back, I started a thread about applying Stox's tactics to mid LHE games and got some excellent advice about how to (and how not to) employ the tactics in his book.

As to the other books: 4,5,8 helped a lot. Hilger's book was good for the games 2 or 3 years ago, but not that helpful in today's games IMO. TOP (2) is good for anyone's game.

1,4,5 are great for live play.

My $0.02 fwiw
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: A Fresh Start

lee jones is a good start, but a little passive. then Ed Miller will make you more taggish, but could turn you a bit laggish if you use his stuff in games that are too tight. Stox stuff is definetly most pertinent for tighter games as you move up, and the one i'd be focusing on now.

books aside, I think you learn better by playing and thinking about specific things you did wrong or right.
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