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Old 11-21-2007, 02:57 AM
Xanta Xanta is offline
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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always cbet a pf 3bet...(at least most of the time)...

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Nope. I love TAGs like you, you call their 3bet with ATC preflop and shove if you flop 4 outs or better. Easy $$$.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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always cbet a pf 3bet...(at least most of the time)...

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Nope. I love TAGs like you, you call their 3bet with ATC preflop and shove if you flop 4 outs or better. Easy $$$.

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ya i agree, it seems like ppl get this one idea stuck in their head like u need to 3bet a lot and then do it at every possible opportunity, against competent players 3betting a lot and auto c-betting is suicidal
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:01 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

i raise here. expecting a call... but TT or perhaps 77 are the only hands we lose to that i would not be surprised to see..

maybe A10.. but he still bets flop imo. get it in.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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always cbet a pf 3bet...(at least most of the time)...

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Nope. I love TAGs like you, you call their 3bet with ATC preflop and shove if you flop 4 outs or better. Easy $$$.

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ya i agree, it seems like ppl get this one idea stuck in their head like u need to 3bet a lot and then do it at every possible opportunity, against competent players 3betting a lot and auto c-betting is suicidal

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3betting a lot and then not c-betting is spewing
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:03 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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shove turn as played

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How is shoving good? Whats he calling our shove with that we are ahead of? If hes value raising this turn we are dead, and if he was bluffing isnt he now just folding?
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:06 AM
Donkey-Milker Donkey-Milker is offline
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

imo they call here with spades... AJ maybe A9..
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:07 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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20-23 on flop

shove turn as played

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How is shoving good? Whats he calling our shove with that we are ahead of? If hes value raising this turn we are dead, and if he was bluffing isnt he now just folding?

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he probably isn't folding any combo draw
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:10 AM
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imo they call here with spades... AJ maybe A9..

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why would he raise AJ or A9 tho? And how likely are spades given the ace is on the board?

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he probably isn't folding any combo draw

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what combo draw is he holding? JTss makes up enough of his range, that we are excited to shove here?
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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20-23 on flop

shove turn as played

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How is shoving good? Whats he calling our shove with that we are ahead of? If hes value raising this turn we are dead, and if he was bluffing isnt he now just folding?

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Yeah I changed my mind, and hand that is calling a turn shove that we beat is also calling a river donkbet, as well as a little more of his range (he might be raising KK,QQ here since us not cbetting is a little odd for an ace). I call turn, but I never get to this spot in the first place.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: I suck w/ AQ in 3b pots

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imo they call here with spades... AJ maybe A9..

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why would he raise AJ or A9 tho? And how likely are spades given the ace is on the board?

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he probably isn't folding any combo draw

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what combo draw is he holding? JTss makes up enough of his range, that we are excited to shove here?

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Kinda like his line with AJ, A9. The raise is small enough that he could get value out of a lot of hero's range. Also the combo draw comment is a little silly, that's a tiny tiny fraction of his range.
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