UTG Limpers

[kerk]

Hi All,

Something i have been havign a lot of trouble with is UTG limpers.
I have no problem raising TAG limper with 66+ J10ss+ KQ+ from the late positions. but im struggling with Nitty and really loose passive UTG limpers. it is making my VPIP and Preflop raise %'s really far apart.
about 31/19 ish. Any ranges or stratagys to combat this?

Mostly the loose passive ones i am having problems with.
I have narrowed a lot of ranges down to sort of 22 - 55 and Ace rag suited but im still getting lost on a lot of flops.

[Hebel]

if your vpip is 31 you are playing way too many hands. tighten up to 25 at the most.

[kerk]

even if i do that. im still gunna be running at 25/15 or so.

[gregorio]

There is no such thing as a TAG who limps UTG. tag!=open limping. I assume the big gap between VPIP and PFR is from overlimping? Do not overlimp. If you want to play the hand in position, raise the limper. If your VPIP is 35, your PFR has to be at least 30, and it gets so high because you raise limpers in position with almost anything.

Post flop, you cbet, and if they call, you're almost always done with the hand if you haven't improved. In order to do this, you have to raise PF and not just overlimp. If they are never folding to your cbet, then tighten up.

[nashman1313]

If they are limping too much I'll raise 4.5 instead of 3.5bb. Unless their really tricky/good then ill stay around 3. Keep pumping KQ and 55+ all day with position on them.

[winnnar]

Tighten up your range and raise those UTG limpers with 77+, KQs+. This should make it easier on the flop, but is still very dependent on your hand reading skills.

Raising with J-10s type hands against loose passive often do not work out too well since they limp Ace high and often have the best hand postflop.

[DockDD]

Don't worry about your stats.

If the guys behind you don't raise much and the limpers are calling stations, it is ok to limp along with speculative hands, hit and get paid. You know their range and where they stand on the flop.

Raise all the hands you'd normally raise without a limper and you get to play them in position, or take down an extra BB for your efforts. Limpers deserve to be punished, so do it.

Squeeze liberally from the blinds=more free money.

[vixticator]

I assume people limp UTG with the same things they limp in the CO. Loose passive's do for sure. Nits limp the same hands. I don't care what position someone limped from, all the same IMO.

[ama0330]

Anyone who limps UTG is a fish. Raise all hands in position and cbet any flop. Your VPIP and PFR are way out and you should be lowering your VPIP to 23-24 or raising your PFR to about 25.

[corsakh]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($34.75)
BB ($13.75)
Hero ($27.50)
MP ($15.55)
CO ($41.10)
Button ($23.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, A.
Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, Button raises to $23.5 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero calls $23.25.

Flop: ($47.35) J, 7, 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($47.35) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($47.35) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $47.35

Results in white below:
Hero has Jh Ad (two pair, jacks and threes).
Button has Qs Tc (one pair, threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $47.35.

How is this not locked yet?