Chris Benoit and Wife found dead

[esad]

Some of you are in serious denial.

Background - I used to be a serious gym rat at a big gym. I'd go twice a day and after about a year of doing this I got to know a number of the people that were there all the time - stunt men, pro athletes (football and basketball), state body building champions, etc.

I can say from personal experience/first hand knowledge that every single guy that looked like Benoit was on the juice. Now, they worked out a lot, and they always gave people their little workout routine bs when people asked how they got that big, but you found out that they were all on the juice once you got in the inner gym circle.

You don't get to look like that without being on something regardless of what lies these people tell you.

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guids,

If it makes you feel any better, I'm betting that he used too.

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Please to be directing me to the person accepting these wagers, ty.

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I think we're all on the same side betting against Dids, amirite?

[Edge34]

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guids,

If it makes you feel any better, I'm betting that he used too.

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Please to be directing me to the person accepting these wagers, ty.

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I think we're all on the same side betting against Dids, amirite?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but even Dids didn't say Benoit didn't use. Just that the blanket statements people throw out about it being "impossible" or whatever else they are saying were stupid...

[yoyoyo]

keep living in your fantasy land guids. keep taking your creatine and your protein powders and all the other garbage supplement companies sell and maybe one day you will be the big and ripped. lol

of course guys in the 60s werent at the same level as guys of today. bodybuilders today are at 2+ grams a week of everything. just like anything else, the limits keep getting pushed. just because arnold and franco werent at the insane levels of today, doesnt mean they werent on alot of stuff. they had test, they had dbol, and they took pretty much anything else they could get. to claim someone today could get their t-levels to the level of arnold and franco naturally by using "science" is laughable. its completely ignorant and makes you look extrememly foolish.

and by the way, the max you will ever see as far as dbol goes even today is around 100mg a day. even at 5mg pills, it wouldnt be hard to hit that daily for arnold and franco.

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Edge,

Yeah that sounds right, he said something like 90%. So why don't I give Dids 9:1?

[guids]

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Some of you are in serious denial.

Background - I used to be a serious gym rat at a big gym. I'd go twice a day and after about a year of doing this I got to know a number of the people that were there all the time - stunt men, pro athletes (football and basketball), state body building champions, etc.

I can say from personal experience/first hand knowledge that every single guy that looked like Benoit was on the juice. Now, they worked out a lot, and they always gave people their little workout routine bs when people asked how they got that big, but you found out that they were all on the juice once you got in the inner gym circle.

You don't get to look like that without being on something regardless of what lies these people tell you.

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meh, gym rat anecdotes just have no credibility. the difference between 1. people 2. training for a specific sport/bodybuilding 3. dedication is just so different that just becasue someone is in the gym all the time doesnt mean they actually know what they are doing.

[yoyoyo]

isnt it time for some creatine and a protein shake guids?

[guids]

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isnt it time for some creatine and a protein shake guids?

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have you ever researched? done a cycle? anything like this? why dont you psot some facts first before you try and tell me Im wrong, when Ive done tons and tons of reading before my cycles. I mean, you can make fun all you want, and say Im wrong, but when asked for evidence you do what ever other douche on this forum does and say something snippy rather than give some actual concrete evidence to back up your thoughts.

[Twoool]

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and there is no way beniot competed at 5% bf, you cant compete athletically too well at that low of bf, he was probably more like 8 to 10%)

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Apparently you don't remember the Total Package!

[spyderracing]

Everyone, I don't think anyone is denying that this guy was on the juice. The fact of the matter is it's highly unlikely they played a roll in the murder. Think about the IFBB pro-bodybuilders (think Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler). I've never heard of any of these guys flying off the handle and killing their entire families, and they are on FAR longer cycles and using a much higher volume than anyone in pro-wrestling. This is turning into reefer madness all over again.