Missed value raise?

aheravi · #1 01-23-2006, 01:06 AM

After having him fire into me 3 times, would you slow down on the river? Is it a missed raise, or would you say since it's heads-up it's borderline raise/call?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.

River: (13.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB

FUJItheFISH · #2 01-23-2006, 01:09 AM

raise. he kept calling your raise on the flop and turn so i think hes just being a retard and putting you on a flush draw or something.

jrmarenda · #3 01-23-2006, 02:48 AM

I probably raise the river. The fact that you keep raising him and he keeps leading with a bet worries me. The villians play is wierd, since he just calls your raises but leads with a bet on every street. It looks like you win this hand since he is probably reraising with anything that beats you.

MandarinKid · #4 01-23-2006, 07:07 AM

During the hand I would be thinking that his bets on the flop and turn mean he doesn't want to give a free card for a flush draw.

Then his bet on the river means he thinks you've missed your flush and he can take the pot.

The presence of the paired threes just adds another confusing element but you've got to waste time over the board thinking about it. It's unlikely he's holding any 3 or a pair of threes - he may just possibly have got through the pre-flop action holding a pair of fours but then his betting doesn't make sense.

I'd probably be putting him on KQs, I'd be thinking about a raise, then the final beeper would be going, and I'd take the safer option and call!

HouseCalls · #5 01-23-2006, 07:21 AM

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I'd be thinking about a raise, then the final beeper would be going, and I'd take the safer option and call!

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Me too - which is exactly why my post flop aggression number is too low...

RyanC · #6 01-23-2006, 08:01 AM

Whats the read on CO. Id raise him on the river.

The Vibesman · #7 01-23-2006, 10:44 AM

I raise the river, thinking he's got a weaker K.

nuts · #8 01-23-2006, 12:25 PM

I don't understand why he didn't 3bet the turn, then bet the river.

With a set, most people will often slowplay the flop, perhaps with a bet/call, then 3bet the turn. Because he didn't 3bet the turn, and the three protects you from some crappy 2pairs I'd be inclined to raise the river, especially with a failed flush draw on the board.

I think a badly played set or a chumptastic K7 or similar are your biggest dangers here, but reads are probaly pretty important. If he's aggro then raise, if passive just call.