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Old 11-08-2007, 06:05 AM
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Default 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

<font color="blue">villain just sat down at this table, but ive played with him recently and he was Laggy and real aggro postflop - like 30/18/4ish. he does seem to understand the fundamentals(proper raising ranges, position, etc) but hes def not the typical 2p2 type player
he wins lots of pots w/o showdown and generally bets when checked to. ive never seen him over bet. </font>

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $98.50
SB: $532.35
Hero (BB): $180.45
UTG: $249.70
MP: $96.45
CO: $196.90

Pre-Flop: 9 9 dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $3</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 5 5 2 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $5</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $18</font>, MP calls $13
<font color="blue"> villain knows i very rarely (never) have a 5 here so my ch/r should look pretty bluffy, and i think hes capable of shoving any pair 33+, plus lots of bluffs with whatever other crap he raises PF. </font>

Turn: ($42.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $75.45 and is All-In</font>, Hero now hates his line
<font color="blue"> whoa
wasnt expecting that.
i was gonna ch/rai on non A turns but wtf? </font>
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:16 AM
vancouverspecial vancouverspecial is offline
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n

get it all in for metagame
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:19 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

lol i wd want to call too. but DONT!

ur only really beating air here or a flush draw, i just dont think ur good enough of the time to make it profitable.
plus as u say, uve never seen him overbet - and whenever i call an overbet, they always seem to have it.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:22 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

if he wants me to call, why would he shove 2x pot?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

its a good question, and i dont know.
but after ur flop line, u appear to have a stong hand. Or a flush draw.

he might put u on clubs, and with stack sizes, he wants to get max value from ur draw. if he bet 30 or so, that leaves an awkward river bet, so he might figure to just stick it in. he seems pretty donky with those stats.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:34 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

thats the thing... i really dont think he puts me on a strong hand. why would i check the turn after ch/r the flop with any hand that i wanted to get all in?

and why would villain just flat my ch/r on the flop with anything legit?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n

the less he is familiar with you the more i would be inclined to call
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th n

although not saying i wouldn't NECESSARILY call if you had history but in a vacuum you'll have to try to outthink yourself if you guys have a ton of history
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:38 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

the c/r flop and check turn 'looks' like a club draw trying to get a free river i guess.

meh - its closer than i first thought given the strange line, id be interested in other peoples views.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:59 AM
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Default Re: 99 - LOL i wanna call this huge overbet turn shove with the 37th nuts

id prolly call for the fact hes short.
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