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Old 11-06-2007, 10:51 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

Villain is DJ Sensei...not sure why he's at 200nl, my guess is he's coaching.

he's playing 20/15 this session w/infinite postflop aggression (100 hands or so).

only history so far is that I 4-bet him once and he folded. if he's paying attention I called a $44 all in ($64 pot at river) from a shortstack w/33 on a 7s7x2s8x4x board.

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BB: $244.10
UTG: $210.25
Hero (CO): $330.25
BTN: $210.45
SB: $216.40

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($16) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($40) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $33</font>, Hero calls $33

River: ($106) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $80....</font>

not sure how I feel about my line and my river bet size. if he shoves it's $80 more to me w/~$340 in the pot.

thoughts?
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

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Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $6, BB folds

Flop: ($16) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12



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quads + flush draw yo, take him to value tooooooooown!
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

but seriously if you fail to raise the flop, then you gotta raise that turn. wtf at slowplaying KK here, especially given his "infinite postflop agression??
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

If he knows you're solid, then you're usually not chasing a flushdraw on a paired board (unless KJcc, which he doesn't beat now anyway). So either he's not paying you off with Tx or a hand like that (it's unlikely that you're doing some kind of sophisticated multistreet float or turning an underpair into a bluff), or he's owning the crap out of you with T9, KJ, 44, etc.
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Old 11-06-2007, 10:57 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

He's going to check raise you.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

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He's going to check raise you.

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Old 11-06-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

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He's going to check raise you.

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so I guess you guys wanna check the river and take a showdown? this was my gut, but i lacked the discipline
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

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He's going to check raise you.

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so I guess you guys wanna check the river and take a showdown? this was my gut, but i lacked the discipline

[/ QUOTE ]yeah, he was either betting a draw/combo draw or had a set...I dont see any value in a bet there. If you think he will 3-bet 99/TT preflop then you can raise/call the flop...but I'd probably play it the same and check the river....flip a coin if he bet it.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

clear value bet vs QJ or Qx[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. TT,99 are very unlikely for obvious reasons.
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Old 11-06-2007, 11:15 PM
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Default Re: 200nl - passive postflop line w/KK overpair...

how do we know he is going to checkraise? Seems well played on the river.
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