88 in bvb oop

deleteduser · #1 11-27-2007, 01:40 AM

PFRR call is fine IMO, I fold the flop here though.

elstunar · #2 11-27-2007, 01:50 AM

ok, well considering i did what i did, 1) what range do you have villain on when he bets river and then 2) what's ur river play?

hennnerz · #3 11-27-2007, 01:51 AM

I dont think calling the 3bet here is profitable here.

You wont hit your set/win the hand enough when he misses the flop enough to make it EV+ in the long run imo.

slush420 · #4 11-27-2007, 01:58 AM

This is played fine. Consider CRAI on river sometimes to fold out TT-KK which would also take this line hoping you are forced to call with a smaller PP like you have.

elstunar · #5 11-27-2007, 01:59 AM

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I dont think calling the 3bet here is profitable here.

You wont hit your set/win the hand enough when he misses the flop enough to make it EV+ in the long run imo.

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then how deep would you have to be to call here? calling i'm calling 6bb when he's 100bb deep?

hennnerz · #6 11-27-2007, 02:00 AM

I think you are calling 10bb here

The general rule is 5-10%. 10% being max and rather marginal. Added to this the fact you are OOP for the rest of the hand I think this isn't EV+

elstunar · #7 11-27-2007, 02:02 AM

i raised to 1.75, he raised to 5, i called 3.25

kerk · #8 11-27-2007, 02:06 AM

this is actually a really interesting hand.

i also fold the flop a lot, sometimes call but now im at river i probably shove. This might be pretty high variance though.

Profish2285 · #9 11-27-2007, 02:06 AM

I think pf is fine. You cant assume youre calling for set odds, this is BvB and people do all sorts of random [censored]. I think people are extremely over aggro in these spots tbh. I think I fold river because his line looks like TT/JJ/QQ/KK tbh from his post flop play. He checks behind as he is scared that you floated him with an A but you checked twice so now he is going to valuetown you.

hennnerz · #10 11-27-2007, 02:15 AM

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i raised to 1.75, he raised to 5, i called 3.25

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Regarding the rule of 5-10% of stack sizes wen calling a 3bet: if i raise to 4bb, he 3bets to say 12bb, then i should fold a pp due to having no odds to set mine right, cos i would be calling 12% of my 100bb stack yeh? its not 8% is it?