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Old 11-29-2007, 02:30 PM
pureklas pureklas is offline
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

I felt that raising the flop would result in getting hands that beat me to shove (sets, str8, flushes) and hands with decent equity against me to shove such as combo draws (flush and str8; flush and pair). i felt a safe turn would be a much better option. If others think that raising the flop is better can you explain to me your reasons. Thanks.
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Old 11-29-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

It is the kind of flop where people always have the nuts when they raise you. I guess he had T8? I like how you played it. I would play it the same way, but I wouldn't be thrilled about calling. It is a crying call on the river.
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Old 11-30-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

NH but never fold river
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

I instafold river.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:33 PM
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

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I instafold river.

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If you will fold river, you should fold the flop. I am not advocating that though.
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

I don't understand flop shoving here, take a look at that:

Board: 9s Js 7s

Wins Ties Equity
44.50% 1.04% 45.54% ( Jd7h )
53.41% 1.04% 54.46% ( QT, T8, As2+, As2s+, TsJ, Ts9, J9, JJ, 77, 99, 86, 8s9, Ks2s+, Ks2+ )


Dunno if it's weak but I'm checking this turn. I'm with a very weak hand given the cirscunstances and to control the size of villain's bet on the river is pretty much my only concern. With a possible str8 + 3-flush on the board it's hard to distinguish between villain being on a draw or with an already made hand, making it very hard to call/fold to big bets on the river even if it's a brick, hence the pot control. Thoughts?
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:57 AM
pureklas pureklas is offline
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Default Re: 1/2nl cash: 2 pr on 3 flush board

I agree getting it in on this flop is bad. We should not fold this flop though. Also, villain does not always have the nuts here vinetou with so many combo draws out there. The river I think is a fold purely because if villain has As and catches one pr Ace on river he checks. The river looks like a nice value bet.
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