NL10 TPTK

piebear · #1 11-25-2007, 03:05 PM

Villain is 13/8.6/2.7 and his att. to steal blinds is 18.1. Pretty solid player from what I'd seen at the table, just pretty tight.

GAME #735618438: Texas Hold'em NL $0.05/$0.10 2007-11-25 17:06:55
Table broom
Seat 1: taropa ($13.94 in chips)
Seat 3: Flenkie ($9.90 in chips)
Seat 6: xxxTHEGRINDxxx ($9.62 in chips)
Seat 8: jaygirl79 ($5.94 in chips)
Seat 10: piebrr ($18.92 in chips) DEALER
taropa: Post SB $0.05
Flenkie: Post BB $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to piebrr [Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
xxxTHEGRINDxxx: Raise $0.50
jaygirl79: Fold
piebrr: Call $0.50
taropa: Fold
Flenkie: Fold
*** FLOP *** [Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
xxxTHEGRINDxxx: Bet $0.70
piebrr: Raise $2.00
xxxTHEGRINDxxx: Raise $8.42
piebrr: Fold
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.02 Rake $0.25
xxxTHEGRINDxxx: wins $12.02

Sorry for the raw HH, no converter I can find that does anything better.

Dr_Doctr · #2 11-25-2007, 03:42 PM

Fold I think - you're not good against his range for b/3-betting this board. Also, just calling the flop may be a better option.

sivadom · #3 11-25-2007, 03:48 PM

Why not 3bet preflop? He's nitty so he'll probably 4bet big pairs pre and save you money vs getting b/3b on the flop. Not saying this is definitely correct, but i wonder if anyone else agrees with me. fwiw, AQo is about the worst hand i'd do this with.

piebear · #4 11-25-2007, 04:08 PM

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Why not 3bet preflop?

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because he's quite tight, and I'm out of position. It was a very marginal situation that I didn't want to make a big pot over.

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fwiw, AQo is about the worst hand i'd do this with.

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You'd rather do this with KQ? JJ? Not sure what you mean

sivadom · #5 11-25-2007, 05:01 PM

I thought you were in position? I'm looking at the HH again and i'm still quite sure you were in position?

What I meant was I wouldnt 3bet KQ or AJ or worse. Wouldn't he 4bet QQ+ OOP? My experience has been that people with these stats get excited and try to dump the money in pre.

I guess what i was getting at was that 3betting pre was the cheapest way to find out if you're up against a big pair. If you dont get 4bet, you'll still lose money to AK the times an ace flops, but it wont cost you as much as getting b/3b on the flop when he has QQ+. Plus you might have FE against other AQ and JJ- given his nitty stats.

What do you think? I'm certainly no expert and open to hearing why i'm wrong.

infinity235 · #6 11-25-2007, 05:54 PM

This certainly isn't a great spot to 3-bet for sure... villain is too tight, AQ against his raising range is a coinflip at best. If you had 3-bet preflop and got pushed on, you could safely fold... if you get called, you can take the pot down with a cbet most of the time. BUT: You are in deep [censored] when you get raised on the flop because villain will probably do it only with KK+, but there's too much money in the pot to fold TPTK.

Read this about 3-betting light: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post7886535

As played, I fold this all day. Sometimes I call his cbet for pot control.