***Official November Chat Thread: The Golden Duck***

[HesseJam]

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All;

I never really realized what a powerful tool PokerEV was.
You can filter hands VERY specifically to find leaks (under the statistics tab).

For example:
This might be super embarrasing, but when I filter my hands to show only hands where 'action on river is a call' by me, I am down $1217.50 this month (-1.6bb/hand)

Can some other people run this filter and let me know if I'm just a terrible calling station?

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It should be like this if you consider pot odds. You sould definately not have a positive winrate when you call the river.

[HesseJam]

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Plus you are calling to win the entire pot, not just that specific bet. So the pot is offering you an overlay that's not included in that stat (I think). Or is it?

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you are correct

[TheProdigy]

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All;

I never really realized what a powerful tool PokerEV was.
You can filter hands VERY specifically to find leaks (under the statistics tab).

For example:
This might be super embarrasing, but when I filter my hands to show only hands where 'action on river is a call' by me, I am down $1217.50 this month (-1.6bb/hand)

Can some other people run this filter and let me know if I'm just a terrible calling station?

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It should be like this if you consider pot odds. You sould definately not have a positive winrate when you call the river.

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Uhmmm..what?

I thought you called on the river with pot odds because you had that much of a chance to win. So if you get 3:1 on the call, then you need to be good enough to make that call reasonable.

I think if you are down substantially it is a leak, as your "pot odds" call should be made when you have enough equity in the hand.

I very well may be missing something here though so feel free to correct me if I screwed that up lol

[1p0kerboy]

Call with FISTPUMP.

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

MP1: $62.10
MP2: $101.85
CO: $102.60
Hero (BTN): $100.35
SB: $135.65
BB: $136.70
UTG: $99.50
UTG+1: $103.85
UTG+2: $123.35

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $103.85 and is All-In</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $94.35 and is All-In

Flop: ($203.20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Turn: ($203.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

River: ($203.20) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $203.20 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes) and WON $200.20 (+$99.85 NET)
UTG+1 showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes) and LOST (-$100.35 NET)

[Falc]

Good start, catching good hands. 2-0 so far to me.

[Mr_Donktastic]

falc takes early lead 2-0 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[1p0kerboy]

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I very well may be missing something here though so feel free to correct me if I screwed that up lol

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In a nutshell, when you call a river bet and win the pot, this filter doesn't count the whole pot as having been won on that street. In other words, if you call and win, the filter only counts the money won on that particular river bet.

[Mr_Donktastic]

falc sweeps!

gg

boat &gt; flush
AK &gt; AT
99 &gt; bluff
AJ &gt; KQ

[Falc]

yay!

Good games mr D.

[Mr_Donktastic]

At least it was quick. How much do I get, $200?

+ $400 in prop bets = not bad for $15!