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Old 10-02-2007, 09:47 PM
46and2 46and2 is offline
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Default pocket qs, k flops

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Hand #46683116-51 at Fri1030pmBounty-009 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 28/Sep/07 23:29:13

vacant_lot14 is at seat 0 with 1395.
BKADERHOLD is at seat 1 with 4620.
frozencanuck is at seat 2 with 885.
clopobec is at seat 3 with 3630.
JAKEUBET is at seat 4 with 3940.
EASY ED 29 is at seat 5 with 2430.
christheguy01 is at seat 6 with 1165.
donk2death is at seat 8 with 3825.
JJBcustom is at seat 9 with 4885.
The button is at seat 9.

vacant_lot14 posts the small blind of 30.
BKADERHOLD posts the big blind of 60.

vacant_lot14: -- --
BKADERHOLD: -- --
frozencanuck: -- --
clopobec: -- --
JAKEUBET: -- --
EASY ED 29: -- --
christheguy01: -- --
donk2death: Qd Qs
JJBcustom: -- --

Pre-flop:

frozencanuck folds. clopobec folds. JAKEUBET calls.
EASY ED 29 calls. christheguy01 folds. donk2death
raises to 300. JJBcustom calls. vacant_lot14 folds.
BKADERHOLD folds. JAKEUBET folds. EASY ED 29
folds.

Flop (board: Th Ks 3d):

donk2death bets 425. JJBcustom calls.

Turn (board: Th Ks 3d 3h):

???????????????????


continue firing here? Villian sees a lot of flops, has only shown down fairly good hands...

I actually check, and he bets 600...
As played, what now?

Appreciate all comments, suggestions.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:07 PM
homanga homanga is offline
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Default Re: pocket qs, k flops

Flop is fine, maybe more like 500. A c/r line here is not terrible.
Turn I c/f here, time to shut it down. If bet is exceptionally small I'd consider a call.
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:32 PM
cheburashka cheburashka is offline
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Default Re: pocket qs, k flops

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Hand #46683116-51 at Fri1030pmBounty-009 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
Started at 28/Sep/07 23:29:13

vacant_lot14 is at seat 0 with 1395.
BKADERHOLD is at seat 1 with 4620.
frozencanuck is at seat 2 with 885.
clopobec is at seat 3 with 3630.
JAKEUBET is at seat 4 with 3940.
EASY ED 29 is at seat 5 with 2430.
christheguy01 is at seat 6 with 1165.
donk2death is at seat 8 with 3825.
JJBcustom is at seat 9 with 4885.
The button is at seat 9.

vacant_lot14 posts the small blind of 30.
BKADERHOLD posts the big blind of 60.

vacant_lot14: -- --
BKADERHOLD: -- --
frozencanuck: -- --
clopobec: -- --
JAKEUBET: -- --
EASY ED 29: -- --
christheguy01: -- --
donk2death: Qd Qs
JJBcustom: -- --

Pre-flop:

frozencanuck folds. clopobec folds. JAKEUBET calls.
EASY ED 29 calls. christheguy01 folds. donk2death
raises to 300. JJBcustom calls. vacant_lot14 folds.
BKADERHOLD folds. JAKEUBET folds. EASY ED 29
folds.

Flop (board: Th Ks 3d):

donk2death bets 425. JJBcustom calls.

Turn (board: Th Ks 3d 3h):

???????????????????


continue firing here? Villian sees a lot of flops, has only shown down fairly good hands...

I actually check, and he bets 600...
As played, what now?

Appreciate all comments, suggestions.

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This took about four minutes on Microsoft Word (no excuses about the converter not working). A small price, IMO, for making life easier for all the wonderful people anxious to give you valuable advice for free.


UTG: 885.
UTG+1: 3630.
MP1: 3940.
MP2: 2430.
HJ: 1165.
Hero: 3825.
BU: 4885.
SB: 1395.
BB: 4620.

Blinds are 30/60; Hero is in CO with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Two folds, MP1 calls 60, MP2 calls, one fold, Hero raises 240 to 300, BU calls 300, four folds

Flop (690) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets 425, BU calls.

Turn (1540) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero???????????????????
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:47 PM
erc007 erc007 is offline
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Default Re: pocket qs, k flops

I think that u can let this go now. Villain's cold-call of your raise over 2 limpers is strong pre, unless he sucks. I think u should have bet a little more on the flop (500-525), but it prob doesn't make much diff. If you feel like u have repped at least a K with your flop bet, then his call and turn lead indicate that he has you. The prob is if he has a hand like 88, and puts u on something like AQ;JJ after your flop bet, he might be betting for value/to protect his hand or trying to take the pot away from u. His turn lead (600 into 1670) is either weak/very strong. The 3 on the turn narrows his range further, he now likely has; TT;KQ;AK;KK if he's ahead, if he had AA, i would expect a flop raise, or a bigger turn bet. I don't think he leads turn/coldcalls preflop with QJ.

Bottom line...if u feel that u have repped at least a K, then folding is the right play IMO. If u call turn, u pretty much have to call any river.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:46 PM
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Default Re: pocket qs, k flops

Fold. Back door flush might hit, he might have a 3, probably has a King.
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