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Old 11-12-2007, 07:50 AM
fmsr fmsr is offline
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Default NL25: KK on AAQ board

I usually play 6-max LHE but want to give NL a try. In LHE I would always call this down, because I want to minimize my losses when behind but give him the opportunity to bluff his chips to me when ahead. I wonder if this is a mistake in NL.

Villain is 28/21/3 over ~50 hands.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $37.05
Hero: $22.25
Button: $33.80
SB: $27.65
BB: $16.05

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $0.75</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.75, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $1.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $3.5</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $4.5</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($17.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $24.75
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Old 11-12-2007, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

I check behind on the flop....basically to do what you said you do in limit....also to keep his range wide and make him think a Q (true he'll prolly call with this on flop too) or like JJ/TT is good so he'll call a valuebet with it on a later street.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:26 AM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

Would I also check if I had an A?
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

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Would I also check if I had an A?

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I would sometimes....not all the time though.
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:36 AM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

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Would I also check if I had an A?

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I would definitively standard contibet with an A here, I think it looks fishy for the PFA to check behind.

But with the KK, I have no clue how to play! The small bet on the turn is really weird, would a Set of Aces play like this? Also the Riverminibet doesn't look that strong!
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Old 11-12-2007, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

Yea as played cant possibly fold to that tiny river bet.
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:20 AM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

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Would I also check if I had an A?

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I would definitively standard contibet with an A here, I think it looks fishy for the PFA to check behind.

But with the KK, I have no clue how to play! The small bet on the turn is really weird, would a Set of Aces play like this? Also the Riverminibet doesn't look that strong!

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No "Set of Aces" possible here. Just trips or quads.
Also from what I've seen at NL25, no villain would check-raise that flop with just a Q. But i might be wrong here. From the nitty way he bet on the turn and river i would put him on a small ace. After yo called the check raise he put you on AK or something. If he check-raised the flop with just a Q, NL25 might be getting a lot more tricky then i would think.

Editedto say that i play at party; other websites might have better players at this level, but i don't think i've ever seen a check-raise with a Q on a flop like this on party.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

Villain showed 66.
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

doesn't JJ/TT 3 bet preflop?

speakin from very limited experience... i think villain checks turn a lot if hero checks behind on the flop. guess wat we do on the flop depends on wat villain thinks our flop action means...
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Old 11-12-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: NL25: KK on AA8 board

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