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08-23-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh and here is one for the entire month of August:  [/ QUOTE ] Wow if it weren't for luck, you'd probably win a lot of money. And by "win a lot" i mean, "breakeven and win 0". [/ QUOTE ] way to not understand the graph, dingus. [/ QUOTE ] .... His expectation in all-in situations over this stretch is (approx) $0, his actual results are -$32K. Hence he lost a lot of money in all-in situations, when he 'should' have broke even in them. What don't I understand? Oh right.. nothing. Thanks for playing. 
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#12
08-23-2007, 04:22 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh and here is one for the entire month of August: [/ QUOTE ] Wow if it weren't for luck, you'd probably win a lot of money. And by "win a lot" i mean, "breakeven and win 0". [/ QUOTE ] way to not understand the graph, dingus. [/ QUOTE ] .... His expectation in all-in situations over this stretch is (approx) $0, his actual results are -$32K. Hence he lost a lot of money in all-in situations, when he 'should' have broke even in them. What don't I understand? Oh right.. nothing. Thanks for playing. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe the concept that you can win a pot in other ways then going all in and to showdown? Like for an example sometimes people fold. Thanks for playing. (Did I get that part right?)
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#13
08-23-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Oh and here is one for the entire month of August: [/ QUOTE ] Wow if it weren't for luck, you'd probably win a lot of money. And by "win a lot" i mean, "breakeven and win 0". [/ QUOTE ] way to not understand the graph, dingus. [/ QUOTE ] .... His expectation in all-in situations over this stretch is (approx) $0, his actual results are -$32K. Hence he lost a lot of money in all-in situations, when he 'should' have broke even in them. What don't I understand? Oh right.. nothing. Thanks for playing. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe the concept that you can win a pot in other ways then going all in and to showdown? Like for an example sometimes people fold. Thanks for playing. (Did I get that part right?) [/ QUOTE ] Yes but shouldn't you expect to be a winner from all-ins? Meaning the red line should be higher than just even? Obviously this is just all-ins but with just this you're not really winning much even if you are running even with all ins.
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#14
08-23-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
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Maybe the concept that you can win a pot in other ways then going all in and to showdown? Like for an example sometimes people fold. [/ QUOTE ] ... and what about my post makes you think I was unaware of this concept, or that I was referring to anything other than all-in situations specifically? I mean, unless you thought my comment was anything other than an extremely flippant observation, referencing that even if he ran 'correct' IN THOSE SITUATIONS (all-in) he'd breakeven (in all-in situations). You DIDN'T think THAT did you? no, of course not. That would make you extremely dense. And you are not dense. Right? Me (responding to all-in specific graph): LOL, even if you ran exactly average, you'd breakeven You: nu-uh! Maybe he could win monies somewhere else Me: thanks, you don't say, O RLY, etc. Once again, thanks for playing.
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#15
08-23-2007, 06:42 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
Jiganti, this is not exactly true. These are all in's with cards to come so any river bet all ins wouldn't be considered, the street where the chips go in most often.
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#16
08-23-2007, 06:43 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
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Jiganti, this is not exactly true. These are all in's with cards to come so any river bet all ins wouldn't be considered, the street where the chips go in most often. [/ QUOTE ] What's not exactly true? That you should expect to have an equity of more than zero for your all-ins?
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#17
08-23-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Master Thesis on \"Why Poker is Rigged\"
This part: "Obviously this is just all-ins but with just this you're not really winning much even if you are running even with all ins."
I'd be up a little over 10k.
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