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Old 12-01-2007, 09:37 AM
DeadMoneyDad DeadMoneyDad is offline
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If they have easy deposit options they will deposit. Party worked for the average person somehow someway. You can't just dismiss their branding success. Stars would be #2 again in 2 weeks.

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As a publicly traded company if "they" have an easy deposit method, they would face tremendous new competition in the US.

As you state, PP has some value from their "branding" and may regain some market share upon their return. However the longer they wait the economic value diminishes. Additionally if they follow the "wait for clearly legal" corporate strategy they will face increased competition.

I never really cared for PP, but I have spoken to quite a few former PP lovers in the US. A good number have left the on-line market. Some seem quite pissed off at being "abandoned".

IMO the only people really looking forward to PP's return are serious grinders who hope the multitude of fish will return and they will not have to keep playing the tight rocks that currently populate on-line poker.

I play poker because I enjoy the mental challenge, to me it is not much different than reading Constitutional Law texts or "The Universe" series on the Discovery channel. I'm sure if I had an economic incentive my perspective would change. As such I think I can see the "fish's" perspective more clearly than those with other motives.

Just a donk's opinion,


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Old 12-01-2007, 12:45 PM
Legislurker Legislurker is offline
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More important is spreading out the rocks/sharks than the pool of "fish". All I need is a table with 6 or 7 worse players, and I can find that still. PP didnt have market share D$D. It WAS the market. On a practical end, if you want to call us sharks or whatnot, poker needs a CONSTANT infusion of cash to feed the rake. PP pumped untold millions into poker via promos and bonuses and just handouts. The other sites are advertizing without pumping in the $. Its hard to nail down, but Party just got the cash flowing, and poker's health followed. The market leader is very important to the market. Right now its Stars
and FT. Both are ham-fisted, and FT has no customer service to speak of. Thats going to have an impact sooner or later.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: Party Poker is up to Something ... which D$D has inside scoop on

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More important is spreading out the rocks/sharks than the pool of "fish". All I need is a table with 6 or 7 worse players, and I can find that still. PP didnt have market share D$D. It WAS the market. On a practical end, if you want to call us sharks or whatnot, poker needs a CONSTANT infusion of cash to feed the rake. PP pumped untold millions into poker via promos and bonuses and just handouts. The other sites are advertizing without pumping in the $. Its hard to nail down, but Party just got the cash flowing, and poker's health followed. The market leader is very important to the market. Right now its Stars
and FT. Both are ham-fisted, and FT has no customer service to speak of. Thats going to have an impact sooner or later.

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This is all very important on what "Party" was..."Party" not only kept "new" players coming in but they kept the money flowing...Not only did Party give away tons of $$$$$ but other sites had to follow...This free monies kept the poker economy fresh and growing..Losing players lasted much longer and slightly losing player became break even or even winning player..This free money had the effect of keeping the small and mid stakes games well stocked with action..With Party gone a post UIGEA bonus money and cash promos are few and far between...

In short Party Poker was a marketing genius and there presence alone had a positive impact on the poker market..
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