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Old 11-05-2007, 06:29 AM
matrix matrix is offline
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Default A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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SB: $114.41
BB: $98.38
UTG: $129.76
MP: $141.21
Hero (CO): $254.52
BTN: $189.03

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, Hero ???

Villain had his stack before I sat and is playing 18/12/3.

Hero is playing ~30/20/3 is raising lots in LP due to goot cards mostly but isn't making it to SD often and probably looks like a bit of a lagtard.

Whats the plan?

Calling and c/f a flop without a fd or an Ace feels like weaksauce. It feels like this villain isn't 3betting here without a Ace that dominates me or JJ+ very often.

Does the plan change much if 3bettor is in the blinds so that I'm IP after the flop?

With 100bb stacks is folding to the 3bet standard?
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

fold...
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:32 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

These hands play pretty poorly OOP(and not much better in position) in 3 bet pots. You're just not going to flop yahtzee often enough. I raise or fold here depending on the 3 bettors tendencies.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:33 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

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It feels like this villain isn't 3betting here without a Ace that dominates me or JJ+ very often.

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if you think his range is that narrow, then folding has gotta be the best

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Does the plan change much if 3bettor is in the blinds so that I'm IP after the flop?

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of course. if you were oop then there wouldn't even be a question of whether or not to fold. being IP makes this much closer, though fold is still good.
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:28 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

fold, 89s is a different story. Don't get me started on T8s...
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

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These hands play pretty poorly OOP(and not much better in position) in 3 bet pots. You're just not going to flop yahtzee often enough. I raise or fold here depending on the 3 bettors tendencies.

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Fold. No question.
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:00 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

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fold, 89s is a different story. Don't get me started on T8s...

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So am i not the only one who's noticed that T8s= the immortal nuts?
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Old 11-05-2007, 08:09 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

fold here. 3bet sometimes
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

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fold here. 4bet never

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Old 11-05-2007, 09:09 AM
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Default Re: A9s - 3bet from the button - deepish.

Nits.
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