Everything we've always wanted to ask about NL thread...

[DeathDonkey]

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How much can a good/very good NL player make per hour at $2/5 NL live with 300-1000 buyins?

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you mean with 300bbs-1000bbs right?

making around 3k profit in a 12hour stint ant 2-5 seems like a good play from a good player.

around 250 an hour but more like 150-200 in reality

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I meant the buyin is $300 to $1000, so between 60 and 200 BB is the buyin. I don't think $150/hr seems reasonable as a long term winrate in this game, thats 15 ptBB/hr?

I mean, I know good online players make 5ptBB/100, I think a really good player could make more live since the players are terrible, but offset by the fact that there are less hands/hour, are we lookin at like $40/hr?

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Just was in Vegas playing the 2/5 NL at Wynn with a very good NL playing 2+2er. This question came up and he thinks he can beat it for at least 100 an hour, maybe more. I'd tend to think its closer to 150 than 40.

-DeathDonkey

[Surf]

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during the few months following the opening of 5-10 6-max on party i made $100/table/hr and tables averages around 75 hands (they were a little slower then) so that's about $130 per 100 hands. 6.5ptbb/100 or 13bb/100.

very few players exceeded that winrate in my database. mostly i think people had good runs over 50K hands and then you didn't hear from them.

now i would be surprised to see 5ptbb/100 over 200K in 5-10 6-max from anyone, including the winning 25-50 players. show me a trailing year database with better than that and 200K+ hands and i will be deeply impressed.

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I would agree with that assessment. I haven't seen any long-term players book 5ptbb/100+ recently, and would be incredibly impressed by such a feat.

Personally, I'm running ~3-4 ptbb /100 over the last 150k and consider that a huge accomplishment in today's games. I've had a hot month or two and a crappy month or two but on the whole I feel to be running pretty average, I've def had my share of downswings.

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[MrWookie]

Well, 4 PTBB/100 at 1kNL is $80/100, and that's still twice as good as 1 BB/100 at 20/40, and the two seem have comparable bankroll requirements. I'm not sure if 20/40 is beatable for more than that, and Stox's book sure put a big damper on any hopes of winning even that much at games bigger than 20/40. NL does look better, at least if I get good at it, but I appreciate the input so I know to keep my dreams in check.