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Old 11-23-2006, 11:06 PM
DP388 DP388 is offline
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Default Always isolate with AQ here?

I think I always tend to isolate a SS push and I wonder if that is short-sided thinking. Is isolation always correct?

In this hand, the SB is gank. I don't know a ton about his play but I know he's got me outchipped here. I also know he will play more than his cards. Button is unknown.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t800/t1600
(Ante: t75)
9 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: t32105
UTG+1: t26649
MP1: t17590
MP2: t8140
MP3: t21804
Hero: t47315
Button: t48842
SB: t69217
BB: t10587

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in t8065</font>, MP3 folds,

Hero?

I think my choices are more than just push/fold, but curious to see other lines of thinking.

Also, if I flat call does he raise with a range that beats the SS push and gets me to fold a better hand?
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:16 PM
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Default Re: Always isolate with AQ here?

id throw in a min reraise here
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Always isolate with AQ here?

well if you do isolate he wont be able to do anything but play his cards. flat calling is only inviting someone to come over the top, especially somene like gank

i think its push/fold here
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: Always isolate with AQ here?

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i think its push/fold here

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Why do you think min raise is not an option here? Does pushing get the bigger stacks to my left to fold a better hand like AK, TT+ or whatever they could feasibly come over the top with?
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: Always isolate with AQ here?

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i think its push/fold here

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Why do you think min raise is not an option here? Does pushing get the bigger stacks to my left to fold a better hand like AK, TT+ or whatever they could feasibly come over the top with?

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I think their point is anything except pushing gives the large stacks a chance to come over the top and get you to possibly lay the hand down. They don't have to have a strong hand to do that. A min-raise is committing about 1/3 of hero's stack. Pushing precludes the large stacks from coming into the hand without strong cards. It might also be enough to get them to lay down some strong hands that are still ahead of you like TT-JJ.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Always isolate with AQ here?

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i think its push/fold here

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Why do you think min raise is not an option here? Does pushing get the bigger stacks to my left to fold a better hand like AK, TT+ or whatever they could feasibly come over the top with?

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I think a call is enough, If the pusher only had like 5k a minreraise would be an option, but with his stack size I don't think a minraise will accomplih anything that a call won't.

Since his push is 8k I doubt someone will push over you with trash just for the sake of getting goods odds HU against Mp2.
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