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Old 06-29-2006, 04:53 PM
ryanghall ryanghall is offline
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

Thanks for offering to post the HH. I appreciate that.
Don't doctor it to say KQ [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(I guess you can post it when you get a sec)

Ryan
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Old 06-29-2006, 04:53 PM
gumpzilla gumpzilla is offline
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

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The problem with raising the flop is that the pot is now very big and there are 2 streets left. It's easy to say that I won't put more money in if called, but if I'm given correct odds to do so, I won't be able to fold.

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If him calling a flop raise really narrows his range significantly, then it's unlikely that you'll be given correct odds to continue at any future point given that narrowed range. I would raise the flop as well, just to keep myself from getting blown off the best hand.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

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The way he potted the flop and turn makes me doubt KQ quite highly. Just trust experience on this one. (Boy I hope he doesn't post a HH w/ KQ in it now..)

Ryan

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In a earlier post i think he wrote that he is waiting for you to him to post his HH..i think now is as good a time as any for you to request this.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

I don't know anything about villian except that he's good. Knowing that, I really doubt he has KQ here. Very few good stt players would bet KQ on the river here (not commenting on whether it is a good play, just saying that most good stters would check call the river).
Villian bet into two limpers with no draws on the flop. My guess would be that he was hoping for a queen to call him down, and his most likely hands are 22 and 66, also Q2 and Q6 and 26 possible. There's almost no chance of a 3 barrel bluff. He's in a limped pot in the big blind and betting at a board with no draws into two opponents oop.
OP played the hand okay I think. Once villian leads into you on this board and you call, you have to assume that he puts on a queen. The interesting thing is, he likely doesn't put you on AQ since you didn't raise preflop, so it is still possible he is value-betting KQ. If you put him on value-betting KQ, you played the hand fine, because by the river it is pretty obvious he doesn't have KQ and that there's almost no way your AQ is good.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:25 PM
Austiger Austiger is offline
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

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I don't know anything about villian except that he's good. Knowing that, I really doubt he has KQ here. Very few good stt players would bet KQ on the river here (not commenting on whether it is a good play, just saying that most good stters would check call the river).
Villian bet into two limpers with no draws on the flop. My guess would be that he was hoping for a queen to call him down, and his most likely hands are 22 and 66, also Q2 and Q6 and 26 possible. There's almost no chance of a 3 barrel bluff. He's in a limped pot in the big blind and betting at a board with no draws into two opponents oop.
OP played the hand okay I think. Once villian leads into you on this board and you call, you have to assume that he puts on a queen. The interesting thing is, he likely doesn't put you on AQ since you didn't raise preflop, so it is still possible he is value-betting KQ. If you put him on value-betting KQ, you played the hand fine, because by the river it is pretty obvious he doesn't have KQ and that there's almost no way your AQ is good.

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I would think 62 is the most likely hand for hero.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:25 PM
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Of course I meant villain not hero.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

I love the line. I play it the exact same way.
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Old 06-29-2006, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

Most players think that just because you lost a hand, means that you played it badly. So you will see alot of these responses that say "raise ____" . You played perfectly because he never 3 barrel bluffs here and you only beat that. [/thread].
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

Austiger is the winner:

PokerStars Game #5401405769: Tournament #27258256, $210+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2006/06/29 - 12:00:39 (ET)
Table '27258256 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: JohnnyBax (1950 in chips)
Seat 2: klitschko18 (1680 in chips)
Seat 3: eclipse4782 (1120 in chips)
Seat 4: Buckohfive (1390 in chips)
Seat 5: ryanghall (1560 in chips)
Seat 6: tonyplo (1050 in chips)
Seat 7: easee123 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: aggie69 (1780 in chips)
Seat 9: Bonsy (1470 in chips)
Bonsy: posts small blind 15
JohnnyBax: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JohnnyBax [6s 2s]
klitschko18: folds
eclipse4782: calls 30
Buckohfive: folds
ryanghall: calls 30
tonyplo: folds
easee123: folds
aggie69: folds
Bonsy: calls 15
JohnnyBax: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 6d Qh]
Bonsy: checks
JohnnyBax: bets 120
eclipse4782: folds
ryanghall: calls 120
Bonsy: folds
*** TURN *** [2c 6d Qh] [9c]
JohnnyBax: bets 300
ryanghall: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [2c 6d Qh 9c] [Th]
JohnnyBax: bets 1500 and is all-in
ryanghall: folds
JohnnyBax collected 960 from pot
JohnnyBax: doesn't show hand
ryanghall said, "AQ.... bad fold?"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 960 | Rake 0
Board [2c 6d Qh 9c Th]
Seat 1: JohnnyBax (big blind) collected (960)
Seat 2: klitschko18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: eclipse4782 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Buckohfive folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ryanghall folded on the River
Seat 6: tonyplo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: easee123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: aggie69 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bonsy (small blind) folded on the Flop


Bax
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Old 06-29-2006, 06:22 PM
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Default Re: ($225) AQ played passively vs JohnnyBax

ah

the 'ol blind special

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