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Old 10-18-2007, 09:00 PM
SinkRox SinkRox is offline
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Default How much to profit with PPs...

I now have a 100k hand database at 200nl. Ive ran at 5.5ptBB 100, so not too shabby but I should be winning alot more (I table select and although I 5-8 table my MT ratio hits ~3.5)

So checking through all my pocket pairs I found something interesting, a massive gap between the winrates of AAKK and all the rest....

Hand | BB/Hand
AA.....5.7
KK.....4.4
QQ.....1.5
JJ.....1.8
TT.....4.3
99.....1.5
88.....0.6

Ive had each PP roughly 480 - 500 times.

Am I leaking somewhere with my QQ,JJ, should/could they fair higher than they have?
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Old 10-18-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

Basically Id be interested to know other ppls BB/Hand for TT+
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

Q1 I should be winning more

A1 As a joke?

A1b If you're not actually kidding; try adding rakeback/bonusses to your winrate and see what your true winrate actually is.


Q2 BB/hands

A2 Standard variation + AA/KK *do* make significantly more than the others because we can fastplay the crap out of them preflop and hit less overcards postflop.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:29 PM
ImsaKidd ImsaKidd is offline
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

Dude, this means almost nothing.
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Old 10-18-2007, 10:30 PM
SinkRox SinkRox is offline
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

Nielsio:

I know man, I know AAKK are in a league of their own, and TTJJQQ are in their own league... still curious if my TTJJQQs should be making any more.

Im obv content with the winrate but its not perfect. I wouldn't mind 5ptbb if i were 6-8 tabling with 6 or more MT ratio, but at 3.5 MT and the table selection I use I really think my winrate should be 6-7. I'm sure I'll need to fix many a leaks to get a perfect winrate, just curious if these high pairs JJ,QQ are glaringly under-optimal.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:11 PM
Cap_Of_Water Cap_Of_Water is offline
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

it can vary over only 100k hands so you cant really tell what the true wr is, but urs looks good. Kind of a weird thing to look into also isnt it? your overall game seems to be fine and so do the winrates for those hands...
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

I'm down 450 with aa in the last 8k hands but I'm still at 6 bb/100. It blows.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

1.) Stat size is pretty small really, so those are your true win rate.

2.) I like that you aren't happy with 5+ptbb/100, but thats a really good win rate.
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

Also, try movin up
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Old 10-18-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: How much to profit with PPs...

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Also, try movin up

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Seriously...QFMFT.
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