Ah6h - Ks6dQs

sir.Oliver · #1 10-13-2007, 10:08 AM

0,05/0,10 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0,05.
6 folds, Hero raises, BU folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: (5,00 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB 3-bets, Hero?.
<ul type="square">just fold to the donk?
i wanted to see if he's just bluff-donking. but what to do after the 3-bet?[/list]Final Pot: 5,00 BB

V4P · #2 10-13-2007, 10:45 AM

Can you really find a fold now that the pot is beyond bloated?

I'd also never fold this flop to a donk.

sir.Oliver · #3 10-13-2007, 10:56 AM

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Can you really find a fold now that the pot is beyond bloated?

I'd also never fold this flop to a donk.

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that's true.

but what would be the best line:
1. call the donk
2. raise the donk and call a 3-bet
3. raise the donkt and fold to a 3-bet

and if he had just called my raise on flop, should i fold to a donk on the turn (unless the turn improves my hand to trips) - i mean, if there is no 3rd flush-card.

V4P · #4 10-13-2007, 11:10 AM

Sorry that I didn't mention it in my original post...

1)Definitely just CALL the flop donk...Versus an unknown I'm willing to fold to another bet on the turn, but I tend to get pretty stubborn on flops like these depending on the opponent

2+3)Raising the flop is beyond bad, but if you do raise, you can't fold to a 3bet

In my games when people just call the flop and donk the turn, its usually a semi-bluff, so I don't like giving up. If thats a standard move in your games, look him up on brickish turns and rivers. If not, you can safely fold

Aaron W. · #5 10-13-2007, 11:23 AM

Don't raise the flop unless you're trying to find a reason to fold on the turn.

Bulletproof Monk · #6 10-13-2007, 11:40 AM

call and fold turn ui

raise is good here, calling sucks because we commit ourselves to another 2BB with a hand that is SAWB, and folding is just weak.

sir.Oliver · #7 10-13-2007, 11:50 AM

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In my games when people just call the flop and donk the turn, its usually a semi-bluff, so I don't like giving up. If thats a standard move in your games, look him up on brickish turns and rivers. If not, you can safely fold

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sorry. my english isn't that good. what does brickish means?

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@V4P and Aaron W.
Thanks for the fast answers!

When i call the flop, i have only 1 save out. If a 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] comes i'm in big trouble and and an A isnt that good also (straight).
The pot is also quiet small... what to do on the turn, if he just checks to me, when no bad-card ([img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or an other higher card then six) comes.

sir.Oliver · #8 10-13-2007, 11:55 AM

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call and fold turn ui

raise is good here, calling sucks because we commit ourselves to another 2BB with a hand that is SAWB, and folding is just weak.

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SAWB?
I don't understand what you mean exactly: Is my flop-raise good in your opinion or bad? (because you said first call flop, fold turn ui - and then raise is good, calling sucks) : )

V4P · #9 10-13-2007, 11:55 AM

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sorry. my english isn't that good. what does brickish means?

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brickish = a blank or non-threatening card

sir.Oliver · #10 10-13-2007, 12:22 PM

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brickish = a blank or non-threatening card

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Allright. Thanks pal! : )