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Old 11-29-2006, 12:47 AM
DP388 DP388 is offline
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Default AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

$10 turbo with 10 min blinds. 150 left, 99 pay. I normally hate this tournament since it's a donkey crap shoot, but I just felt like playing.

I'm relatively new to the table, but there long enough to know that MP3 was an uber donk and I'm not worried about their hand.

IMO, MP2 most likely has TT-QQ, AQ, AK based on the size of their raise and it's doubtful they are folding here. I'm obviously not desparate, but I often find myself there and I wonder if this is one of those spots where a race makes sense in order to put myself in a position to win and have a healthy stack. Or is this one of those times where I should wait for a better spot since I know I don't have fold equity?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Blinds are t300/t600 + 50 ante (9 handed)

MP2 (t11605)
MP3 (t11841)
Hero (t10870)
Button (t33278)
SB (t4685)
BB (t13370)
UTG (t6150)
UTG+1 (t11610)
MP1 (t6769)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t600, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t3000</font>, MP3 calls t3000,

Hero?
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

folding here is bad
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:00 AM
JoseGonzlez JoseGonzlez is offline
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

my strategy is just shove anything decent.

you cant really fold AK in these things.

you pushbut good you will make in deep although they are hard as [censored] to make the final table of just cause your gonna have to win alot of flips.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:12 AM
RobTheDuck RobTheDuck is offline
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

I see no other option besides shoving.

If you're up against AA or KK, it just wasn't your $10 turbo. Otherwise, the overlay in the pot when at least one person folds (or calls with AT or some garbage) is more than enough to make this a +ev shove.
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:16 AM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

Because of the blind structure I really like the push and race strategy.

Pushing is clearly +cEV and the blind structure is fast enough that you can not be passing up such +cEV situations because of your skill edge.
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Old 11-29-2006, 08:45 AM
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

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Because of the blind structure I really like the push and race strategy.

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How about a normal structure?
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Old 11-29-2006, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

IMO, you've got $4000 dead money on a push, 10 minute blinds are about to put you in push mode very soon with zero dead money and less holdings. Your worse case opponent holdings you're a coin flip at worse with an outside shot at AQ. It's a donk tourney, you feel your a better player than a good portion of the field, a push for double up here seems too good to turn up. Win this hand and cash, AK is not a bad hand to go in.
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Old 11-29-2006, 03:10 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

This is an easy shove
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Old 11-29-2006, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

three words:

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lamma
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Old 11-29-2006, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: AK with 8M, knowing you have no fold equity

Pushing will leave you with pretty much no FE vs the original raiser, since he's getting 2.44:1. Of course, people fold all the time even when they shouldn't.

Readless, I'd say that MP2 has AJo+,ATs+,KQs,55+ with some other random stuff mixed in. Gives you an equity of around 55%, more than enough. If MP3 decides to call, your equity obviously goes down but at the same time, you don't need too much to make a push correct.

In short, push, both here and in a regular MTT.
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