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Old 01-19-2007, 01:06 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

What's your standard line here? How does it change depending on the number of opponents?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1240)
UTG+1 (t1570)
MP1 (t3580)
MP2 (t1450)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1045)
SB (t1665)
Hero (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, MP1 calls t30, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, CO calls t30, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t15, Hero checks

Flop: (t120) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero ???
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

I usually just c/f this unless pot odds dictates otherwise.
Sometimes I try a min bet as a blocking bet, but not sure if that is just bloating the pot. It is not the nuts fd either.

too early in the tournament to bloat the pot?
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:16 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

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I usually just c/f this unless pot odds dictates otherwise.

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Old 01-19-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

yea, this looks to early to be gettin involved in this hand, just c.f and hope to get a free card to improve the hand
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:22 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

Say you have a hand like AKs and flop a flush draw on a 3 7 10 flop. Are you check folding that hand against three opponents?
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

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Say you have a hand like AKs and flop a flush draw on a 3 7 10 flop. Are you check folding that hand against three opponents?

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This early, probably. Once again, it kinda depends on what odds I'm getting.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

I probably check/call the flop and re-evaluate the turn. If there was no ace, but say a king, I would be willing to bet out here 1/2 the pot to attempt to take it down. But with the ace and 2 limpers, odds are someone has an ace and a bet won't get them out of the pot.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

id continue if i was getting good odds to do so in a multi way pot. if not, i wouldnt.
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Old 01-19-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

with somethign like AK on that flop, i would probably check and call a pretty small bet. I really am not a fan of bloating the pot with a draw like the OP, but with AK having the nut flush draw and probably making your A or K pair would be a winning hand, so i would be looking to see a turn as cheap as possible to make the hand
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Old 01-19-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Stars $27, bottom pair and flush draw out of BB

check folding here is bad. check and raising is bad because your OOP and if you miss on the turn card you've made this pot too BIG. check calling is the best line unless the bet is 150 or more.
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