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Old 11-01-2007, 01:35 AM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

No real reads, but villain was playing a lot of hands. All comments welcome, especially what a loose player might have here, and advice about betsizing.


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CO: $10
BTN: $68
SB: $47.95
BB: $35.40
Hero (UTG): $54
UTG+1: $47.75
MP1: $13.15
MP2: $29.85

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Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, 6 folds, BB calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3

Turn: ($10.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, BB calls $6

River: ($22.75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, BB calls $10
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

bet more on the flop and turn

river is a bad card, but I think a bet is fine
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:40 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

I agree with bottomset.

Dont really know if i'd check behind in the river or not, but i dont think i'd bet $10 on it.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

Looks fine although id probably go a little more on each postflop street.
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:39 AM
TJ Eckleburg12 TJ Eckleburg12 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

I think you should bet closer to the pot on the flop, and on the turn.

For the river, maybe I'm a bitch, but I check through frequently. Even though you didn't get check-raised, it seems like I always am getting check-raised there.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:28 AM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

I think the bets are fine IMO. Maybe slightly more on the turn since there are now two draws out. I might of just checked behind, a bluff would have lead out here. AK?
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

If he's calling the river, I assume a crappy 2p. The flop bet is ok w/ me assuming it's in line with most of your c-bets, but I'd bet the turn closer to 8-9. I'd probably check behind on the river.

I'm guessing QT, or JThh. Even a potato would raise AK on the river.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:55 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

Yeah seki, I thought QT was the only likely hand that beat me on the river (though of course QJ or something had me from the flop). So I didn't think the river beat me, but with the super passive play I figured either FD or a WA/WB line with AQ or KQ was most likely.

Spoiler alert: turns out I got pretty good value against AdJd. Do I get these calls if I make bigger bets?
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

Id deffinately bet more on each street. 4-4.50/8-9/15 or i might check with no reads
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Old 11-01-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: NL50 - KK, 3 streets of vlaue standard?

Wow
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