Weird spot with QQ on turn

Berky · #1 10-05-2007, 02:22 AM

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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Hero (BTN): $47.80
SB: $68.10
BB: $170.70
UTG: $74.25
CO: $54.25

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB calls $3

Turn: ($10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8, SB raises to $23, Hero ?????

What do you do in this spot? No stats because AHUD is broken. I'm not that worried about Q10 because I doubt he'd chase a gutterball, haven't really seen player get out of line been playing with him for 30mins or so.

mookboi · #2 10-05-2007, 02:28 AM

Fold. Baluga.

CruS · #3 10-05-2007, 02:48 AM

pretty std fold.
In general, (and what mookboi is saying here) you need a better hand than a pair to face such turn aggression.

T-Bone98 · #4 10-05-2007, 03:27 AM

Fold. Check-call on flop followed by check-raise on turn usually is a hand u wont beat with QQ

Nick C · #5 10-05-2007, 03:36 AM

FWIW, all gutterballs are not alike (QT has an over to the flop as well, which could influence Villain).

And you've got one now as well, along with some other murky outs, but Villain checkraised big enough that I guess you should fold.

One reason I hesitate to do so is that folding a hand as good as an overpair here just because someone check-called and then checkraised is potentially very exploitable (especially if you're betting the turn with any regularity). But, as I mentioned in some thread earlier this week, check-calling and then checkraising the turn exclusively with big hands is exploitable in its own way.