better lines?

jt1 · #1 09-10-2007, 10:47 PM

5/10 Hold'em (6 handed)

Villain is a thinking LAG. He has a 43 wtsd% but I've also seen him make an uncomfortable fold or two. He's probably a breakeven player.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB folds.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB

sharpie · #2 09-10-2007, 10:55 PM

I don't like the flop raise, you're probably not a favorite, you might push some worse hands drawing slim out, and bad cards can fall where you don't really want the initiative. As played I'd check the turn and call a river bet.

stone75 · #3 09-10-2007, 11:14 PM

why don't you like the flop raise exactly? This is a very interesting hand I think (in my opinion this are the important hands, and not "how can I extract the most with four of a kind".

If sb reraises on the Flop you can easily fold uninproved on the turn. If he will not three bet at least I think you will get a free showdown - as long as he does not raise you on the turn - then of course you have to fold.

I am very interested in more comments about this hand. And if the raise on the flop is really not a good thing, please explain it to me.

I really think this was a good line, as long as you are a player capable to fold on 4th street.

sharpie · #4 09-10-2007, 11:20 PM

I already explained why it's not a good thing. Raising the flop intending on folding the turn if 3 bet or taking a "free" showdown is awful, especially against a thinking LAG.

yourface · #5 09-11-2007, 01:37 AM

this thread has been sharpie'd

yourface · #6 09-11-2007, 01:38 AM

seriously the flop raise is bad but I'm too buzzed to explain why

Gurravasa · #7 09-11-2007, 02:15 AM

building the pot on flop with a decent holding planning to fold on the turn on a drawy board is a poor idea against a LAG, you'll fold the best hand way to often. Take it to SD and don't give him the chance to steal the pot from you.