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Old 10-30-2007, 11:55 PM
donekir donekir is offline
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

Jus found this post here about Deill from BB

PokerStars Game #12627778778: Tournament #63182595, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (150/300) - 2007/10/14 - 17:28:30 (ET)
Table '63182595 229' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dantes_11 (10975 in chips)
Seat 2: r.scoundrel (9275 in chips)
Seat 3: nikov (7635 in chips)
Seat 4: Dunamis (26490 in chips)
Seat 5: Deill (6065 in chips)
Seat 6: PokingTobo (7775 in chips)
Seat 7: Jord4n (6010 in chips)
Seat 8: pooli (9395 in chips)
Seat 9: gbmantis (25680 in chips)
pooli: posts small blind 150
gbmantis: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dantes_11 [4c 2d]
Dantes_11: folds
r.scoundrel: folds
nikov: calls 300
Dunamis: calls 300
Deill: raises 1500 to 1800
PokingTobo: folds
Jord4n: calls 1800
pooli: folds
gbmantis: folds
nikov: raises 5835 to 7635 and is all-in
Dunamis: folds
Deill: calls 4265 and is all-in
Jord4n: calls 4210 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8s Jh 9s]
*** TURN *** [8s Jh 9s] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [8s Jh 9s 8h] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nikov: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Deill: shows [Th As] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Jord4n said, "lololo"
Jord4n said, "lololololo"
Deill collected 110 from side pot
Jord4n: shows [Ad Td] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Deill collected 9390 from main pot
Jord4n collected 9390 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18890 Main pot 18780. Side pot 110. | Rake 0
Board [8s Jh 9s 8h 7c]
Seat 1: Dantes_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: r.scoundrel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: nikov showed [Qd Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 4: Dunamis folded before Flop
Seat 5: Deill showed [Th As] and won (9500) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 6: PokingTobo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Jord4n (button) showed [Ad Td] and won (9390) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 8: pooli (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: gbmantis (big blind) folded before Flop


i made a bad fold.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:24 AM
fsoyars fsoyars is offline
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

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I'm pretty sure this is a FO. The average stack size of 5500 is consistent with 3K starting chips after one hour. The time is almost 8PM, which would be consistent with the blinds levels of a tournament starting at 7PM, and there is a $100 FO at that time, but not a $100 rebuy.

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Wow. Could you also find out if my gf is cheating on me?

Oh and yeah you made a bad fold regardless of whatever that other hand you found and posted was.
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:34 AM
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

lol
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

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Wow. Could you also find out if my gf is cheating on me?

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...I have some bad news
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:26 AM
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

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Wow. Could you also find out if my gf is cheating on me?

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...I have some bad news

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ASPoker8, you just made me spit beer all over my monitor. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

This thread is really funny, keep up the good work
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:53 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

OP, how can you STILL think your fold is fine (with info you had at the time..)? if you do I do I dont think why you posted the hand.
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:35 AM
donekir donekir is offline
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

Dear All,

ill try to summaries the post and the hand again i just looked back the tourn stats at PokerOffice and ill try to explain that why did i fold that, i made the post bc i have never folded AK preflop when there were not two or three allin before me. It happened like once or twice around the bubble.

But now i was pretty sure that im making a good laydown. (not counting that i doubled up in the next hand with a floped nut flush).

So my reasons were:

1. my saw flop was 17%, pfr was:14% (i was TAG)

2. i have never raised from SB

3. Deill was TAG too

4. its true that my 400 raise was a bit weak 500 would have been better, but at that table from me it represented enough strength or a trap, so they had to put me on JJ+

5. i didnt count with the BB i played that hand against the limpers, so he screwed my original plan, and i when i loose the controll over the pot i like to fold and pick a nother opportunity to build my stack.

6. and Deill instant all-in showed not much fear so i felt like he has AA KK, i just had that feeling i know its a bit lame, but i had the read.

7. if he had AK too which is the more likely. he had the better position and with same cards the position has to win

and one more thing. i do like better outplay my opponents than decide a tournament in a preflop battle.

ty all the answers from the respected members.

>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;

AK is not a hand what u cant fold ever. But obv i made a bad lay down, but at least i can lay down AK
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Old 10-31-2007, 11:42 AM
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

lol
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

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AK is not a hand what u cant fold ever. But obv i made a bad lay down, but at least i can lay down AK

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