Would u fold AKs preflop? - i did

[donekir]

That was his first move but he never limped. Would u call or fold?

The Hero is i guess is me> donekir

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PokerStars Game #12885659344: Tournament #64650446, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2007/10/27 - 19:59:02 (ET)
Table '64650446 25' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: McShove (7210 in chips)
Seat 2: joachin68 (5635 in chips)
Seat 3: jopalmighty (3425 in chips)
Seat 4: Slugg7 (2415 in chips)
Seat 5: donekir (4090 in chips)
Seat 6: Deill (9015 in chips)
Seat 7: Siebentonner (2125 in chips)
Seat 8: DonLavio (12290 in chips)
Seat 9: francoguate (7565 in chips)
donekir: posts small blind 50
Deill: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to donekir [Ad Kd]
Siebentonner: folds
DonLavio: folds
francoguate: calls 100
McShove: folds
joachin68: folds
jopalmighty: folds
Slugg7: calls 100
donekir: raises 300 to 400
Deill: raises 8615 to 9015 and is all-in
francoguate: folds
Slugg7: folds
donekir: folds
Deill collected 1000 from pot
donekir said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1000 | Rake 0
Seat 1: McShove folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: joachin68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jopalmighty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Slugg7 (button) folded before Flop
Seat 5: donekir (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Deill (big blind) collected (1000)
Seat 7: Siebentonner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: DonLavio folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: francoguate folded before Flop

[Bakes]

your probably freerolling him tbh

[ASPoker8]

call you have a flush draw

[PLAYOFFS]

I've seen so much worse pushing there than AA or KK...You are almost always AT WORST a coinflip.

[DJ Pattiecake]

ppl usually make these big aipf overbets w jj qq and ak imo

[hasuuser]

I d fold in a 100$. Snap call in 50 and lower.

[Tonylee2402]

fold

[donekir]

Dear All,

ill try to summaries the post and the hand again i just looked back the tourn stats at PokerOffice and ill try to explain that why did i fold that, i made the post bc i have never folded AK preflop when there were not two or three allin before me. It happened like once or twice around the bubble.

But now i was pretty sure that im making a good laydown. (not counting that i doubled up in the next hand with a floped nut flush).

So my reasons were:

1. my saw flop was 17%, pfr was:14% (i was TAG)

2. i have never raised from SB

3. Deill was TAG too

4. its true that my 400 raise was a bit weak 500 would have been better, but at that table from me it represented enough strength or a trap, so they had to put me on JJ+

5. i didnt count with the BB i played that hand against the limpers, so he screwed my original plan, and i when i loose the controll over the pot i like to fold and pick a nother opportunity to build my stack.

6. and Deill instant all-in showed not much fear so i felt like he has AA KK, i just had that feeling i know its a bit lame, but i had the read.

7. if he had AK too which is the more likely. he had the better position and with same cards the position has to win [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

and one more thing. i do like better outplay my opponents than decide a tournament in a preflop battle.

ty all the answers from the respected members.

[donekir]

Jus found this post here about Deill from BB

PokerStars Game #12627778778: Tournament #63182595, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (150/300) - 2007/10/14 - 17:28:30 (ET)
Table '63182595 229' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: Dantes_11 (10975 in chips)
Seat 2: r.scoundrel (9275 in chips)
Seat 3: nikov (7635 in chips)
Seat 4: Dunamis (26490 in chips)
Seat 5: Deill (6065 in chips)
Seat 6: PokingTobo (7775 in chips)
Seat 7: Jord4n (6010 in chips)
Seat 8: pooli (9395 in chips)
Seat 9: gbmantis (25680 in chips)
pooli: posts small blind 150
gbmantis: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Dantes_11 [4c 2d]
Dantes_11: folds
r.scoundrel: folds
nikov: calls 300
Dunamis: calls 300
Deill: raises 1500 to 1800
PokingTobo: folds
Jord4n: calls 1800
pooli: folds
gbmantis: folds
nikov: raises 5835 to 7635 and is all-in
Dunamis: folds
Deill: calls 4265 and is all-in
Jord4n: calls 4210 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [8s Jh 9s]
*** TURN *** [8s Jh 9s] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [8s Jh 9s 8h] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nikov: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
Deill: shows [Th As] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Jord4n said, "lololo"
Jord4n said, "lololololo"
Deill collected 110 from side pot
Jord4n: shows [Ad Td] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
Deill collected 9390 from main pot
Jord4n collected 9390 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18890 Main pot 18780. Side pot 110. | Rake 0
Board [8s Jh 9s 8h 7c]
Seat 1: Dantes_11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: r.scoundrel folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: nikov showed [Qd Qc] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 4: Dunamis folded before Flop
Seat 5: Deill showed [Th As] and won (9500) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 6: PokingTobo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Jord4n (button) showed [Ad Td] and won (9390) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 8: pooli (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: gbmantis (big blind) folded before Flop


i made a bad fold.

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7. if he had AK too which is the more likely. he had the better position and with same cards the position has to win [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]


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