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Old 11-30-2007, 09:33 PM
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Villain runs at 37/15/9. He has a flop aggro of 17 and a raise c-bet of 35 so you have an idea of his aggression. I have seen him donk b/3b with a fd.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($137.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($54.50)</font>
UTG ($69.10)
MP ($60.55)
Button ($49)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.

Flop: ($3.25) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $9.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero....
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: TPTK BvB

3bet this preflop. As played I'm realy unsure. If he's doing this with flushdraws and a bunch of other hands I'd consider 3betting the flop and calling a shove.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: TPTK BvB

I dont really 3 bet much pf in this situation, I like calling and taking flops. I also think in general AJ is a bad hand to 3 bet as it has RIO written all over it.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:00 PM
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Maybe in general, but think of his range when folded to in the SB. I think 3betting here is standard, as it makes the hand easier to play, he folds often enough, and if he calls, his range is narrowed.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:02 PM
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Im not sure why we would want to narrow his range down. I also dont really agree that his range gets narrowed much at all if we raise, this guy probably calls with most of his range in a BvB situation, he seems like a hyper aggro idiot.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:08 PM
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You can loosen 3-betting standards BVB, most of the time these over aggro won't believe your 3-bet and call with alot worse than AJ.

If you just call obv you miss 2/3 of flops and an agrro player will just take pot away from you most of the time.

As played I think I flat and chk/call most turn cards.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:15 PM
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When I flat in position here, I dont just fold to every flop I miss. I do float and bluff/raise depending on board and villain. Not really interested in pf though, more curious how you guys would play it once you get to this point. The problem with calling here is that he could have a gutshot or he could have a diamond draw just as easily as he could have two pair or whatever.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:37 PM
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I think alot of his range is just random air and some gutshot type hands as you say. So I think we will extract best vs his range by just chk/calling and using TP as a bluff catcher. No real need to protect imo.
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:40 PM
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Assuming we call the flop, what are your plans for t/r when either a blank hits or a diamond hits, or even a king?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:57 PM
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Not to worried about diamonds as we're HU. I think most cards are fine to chk/call turn on for reasons above.

If turn goes chk/chk I would call a river bet, except probably a K and PSB together.

River is more interesting if he double barrels turn and river. I prob find a fold on river if this happens regardless of the card as its such a strong line by him.
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