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Old 11-21-2007, 09:21 PM
Marduk Marduk is offline
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

for everyone who wants to bet the flop, what is the purpose of the bet? do any worse hands call? do any better hands fold?
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

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for everyone who wants to bet the flop, what is the purpose of the bet? do any worse hands call? do any better hands fold?

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If you do not bet this flop you will face a bet on the turn 90% of the time and you will have no idea if he has a K or a 7 or just air. You are betting the flop to take the hand now, don't go overboard, bet 1/3 - 1/2 the pot and if called you will most likely be checked to on the turn so you can see a free river and reevaluate.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:07 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

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for everyone who wants to bet the flop, what is the purpose of the bet? do any worse hands call? do any better hands fold?

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One of the great things about continuation bets is that they make your life easier.

It is true that often a worse hand will fold, but hero won't feel comfortable calling a turn and river bet, so don't let your opponent bluff you off the best hand.
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Old 11-22-2007, 01:15 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

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for everyone who wants to bet the flop, what is the purpose of the bet? do any worse hands call? do any better hands fold?

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If you do not bet this flop you will face a bet on the turn 90% of the time and you will have no idea if he has a K or a 7 or just air. You are betting the flop to take the hand now, don't go overboard, bet 1/3 - 1/2 the pot and if called you will most likely be checked to on the turn so you can see a free river and reevaluate.

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Yeah, 1/2-60% of pot is good here.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:00 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

this hand was played well IMO.
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Old 11-22-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

This hand was played perfectly imo. I would have played it the same way. Anyone that says c-bet, is just wrong. Check behind, call turn bet, and reevaluate river should be your standard play here.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

Make a cbet. If he folds you win, if he raises you're probably beat. I might push the turn if I have any reads.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:18 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

something that makes a hand easier to play doesn't mean that it's optimal.
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Old 11-22-2007, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

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something that makes a hand easier to play doesn't mean that it's optimal.

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Why would you check? You can win the pot right here which would be the best option right here. Checking gets you no info.
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Old 11-22-2007, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: $10+1 Stars: JJ on paired flop

theres absolutely no value in a c-bet. C-betting gets you no info either... if you get c/r, you have to fold, despite not knowing where you are. He easily could be calling with a worst pair, yet you have to shut down. You also get no value from the hands that are folding to a c-bet. I really don't see how this is even close. Checking is by far the best option.
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