JJ in the big blind with two callers and scary flop

[sfetaz]

Read on UTG is VP$P 40, PFR 6, AF 1.42 over 130 hands. Other opponent no read.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero...

[LateFlag]

I'm going to check and call one back to me; I'll fold if it's bet-and-raised when it comes back. If it were HU against UTG+1, I'd feel more enthusiastic about continuing with the hand, but I doubt that he and MP1 are both drawing.

[LukeSLTS]

This looks like a set or made flush from UTG and a flush draw from MP1. I think we are behind here and most likely we have 4 outs (two Js, two 8s). Since this pot got enormous on the flop we now have the odds to peel on the turn for one bet. If we don't improve on the river I think this is check/fold, though with a pot this big I think I only fold if MP1 calls.

[marchron]

UTG is pretty aggro for those stats (and by the way, OP, a "read" is more than just "stats"). I'm not looking to get out just yet.

I'm donking this turn.

[shuinthehouse]

While pairing the board with the Ad are within UTG's range and he'd play them this way, seems to me more likely we are behind to a set, str8 or flush, all within his 34% limping range. I'm trying to see the river cheap, calling one and folding two on the turn, folding river UI if UTG bets and MP calls, calling if UTG bets and MP folds.

[Fantam]

I would check call one bet on the turn, and re-evaluate on the river.

[kav]

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I'm going to check and call one back to me; I'll fold if it's bet-and-raised when it comes back. If it were HU against UTG+1, I'd feel more enthusiastic about continuing with the hand, but I doubt that he and MP1 are both drawing.

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[neurotiq]

I'd check/call this one. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[VinnieC]

Although this isn't the OP's question, I'm curious... at what point do we give villain(s) credit for the flush?

In general, on a three-flush flop (when we have an overpair like TT or JJ), with a fairly loose-passive villain raising, and an unknown cold-calling, does it make sense to bail when our reraise gets capped? Or are we not as worried because we hold an overcard in the flush suit?

What about if we don't hold a flush suit card? Do we even reraise on the flop, or just pack it in when we get raised (with a cold-caller)?

Thanks.

[Sushiglutton]

I check and call one bet.