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Old 10-23-2007, 05:09 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default I folded something I normally never do

Villain is a decent TAG who plays something like 21/17 and I'm playing TAG. Villain almost timed out before pushing and to me it seems like he did everything to make his hand look very weak, i.e. he timed out and pushed instead of 4-betting smaller. It kinda smelled AA or KK and therefore I folded. At that moment I felt good about it, but afterwards I fell like "wtf don't thrust your feelings, you made a squeeze and he could be shoving with AQ or whatever... god damn get it in!". What do you think about it? Thrust your feelings or get it in wtf?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21.00</font>, SB calls $18.00, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $84.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises All-In $600.00</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero folds</font>
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

I am not folding for a 100bb 4 handed when your hand look like a squeeze.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

I would probably avoid "thrusting" my entire stack in the center on this hand.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:45 PM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

Mhe, I will squeeze frequently in this spot, so it would fell kinda weird to fold one of your best hand against resistance... even though the "read" or I dunno maybe I should thrust it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

i trust my feelings but your logic is right, if he insta shoved that would make me more likely to fold

as it is it kinda seems like JJ QQ AQ AK AA KK are all in his range...

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

66,779,856 games 0.005 secs 13,355,971,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.894% 38.02% 11.88% 25388298 7931059.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 50.106% 38.23% 11.88% 25529440 7931059.00 { AcKh }

--&gt; call, that doesnt even take into acc bluffs
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:02 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
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If you squeeze a lot in this spot, folding here is awful.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

Call.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

CALLLLL
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

i call in this spot like 100% of the time. a large portion of the time, i see kk or aa. so what do i know.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: I folded something I normally never do

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If you squeeze a lot in this spot, folding here is awful.

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Even if you don't, people will expect you to if they view you as a TAG. As button I've shoved suited aces, KQ/KJ, any pair, and all sorts of crap a lot when I feel like I'm likely being squeezed. Now I'm more aggressive than villain in all likelihood, but any decent tag is not going to roll over in this spot, and will shove a lot of hands we beat. Folding is absolutely criminal here, imo.
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