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Old 10-17-2007, 11:43 PM
Josh. Josh. is offline
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Default QQ tough spot oop 160 bb deep

havent posted here in awhile but i really hope my avatar isnt still the mets one...

ub 10/25, this is a hand my buddy played

we ($4000) open interracial, diamondless QQ utg 6-handed to 85, utg+1 ($2700, no read) calls, button (cover, 27/21 over 80 hands) calls, and the blinds fold

FLOP (pot $290): 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

we bet 290 (he timed down and hit bet pot to get his bet in), and only the button calls

TURN (pot $870): 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

we bet $625, and he makes it 1600 straight with about 2k behind...

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- turn wtf? my gut reaction is 'how could you fold' when he has position, it's a good 2 barreling board with little history, his opponent hasn't committed many chips, and QQ is toward the very top of his utg raising range on this board.

- maybe i'm being results oriented, but with awkward (deep with button) and differing stacks, being out of position to 2 players, and the dryness of the board, i think it's a good spot to check the flop.

- turn bet? i don't like checking, and i think if you check the turn you should check the flop instead. it has many of the same advantages, except you aren't turning your hand face up 160 bb deep out of position
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