Low end Supernovas looked over by new VIP program.

ryanghall · #1 12-30-2006, 02:55 PM

I'm sure there are some people that are very happy about the new VIP program. I'm really disappointed. As a player who made it to 200K VPPs this year and was going to aim for 300K VPPs next year (no point now), I was excited about rumours of a new VIP program and hoping there would be something special to aim for.

All that Supernovas at the 200K VPP level get now that is different to last year is a $2K bonus that you have to pay almost $1K in FPPs to get...

At the 300K VPP level (and you have to contribute a *lot* of rake to get to this level), all they get is a $3K bonus that you need to contribute almost $1K in FPPs to get.

This is not only about the fact that we haven't had much additional added to the program, but the only good freeroll (the Supernova freeroll) has been taken away! In freerolls where it's Goldstar+ and Silverstar+ there will be thousands of people. The value of these freerolls will be much lower than it looks to you now, I can assure you.

So essentially my value from the program (along with other Novas from 100K yearly VPPs - has actually gone down and has apparently been given to the Elkys of the world. I'm not saying that someone who gets 1 Million VPPs shouldn't be rewarded but not at other Novas expense.

What a disappointment. So many neat things could have been done to give me the drive to play this year. I've never played a big land based tournament and I was really hoping that the 300K VPP level would grant entry into a land based $5K event or an EPT or something. Something to actually aim for poker-wise rather than boring small cash bonuses which 2p2ers constantly beg for. I can't speak for anyone else but an extra $1K for a hard year of grinding won't motivate me to play. I hope Stars sees the folly of their ways and rectifies the situation. To their credit they always have in the past.

Ryan

Losing all · #2 12-30-2006, 03:05 PM

300,00 points under the old system-

$16,800 + some crappy freerolls

300,000 points under new system-

$16,800 + some crappy freerolls + $3400 + %75 towards another $3200.

I'm not sure what people were expecting, but this looks like a nice bump to me.

mbpoker · #3 12-30-2006, 03:05 PM

If you get to 300K level, you get $3.4K cash extra in addition to over 30% rb. If you get to 500k level you collect $10.8 extra cash - enough to buy into WSOP on your own.

As to freerolls their EV remains to be seen. I hope it will be higher for SN than it was before not lower.

ryanghall · #4 12-30-2006, 03:06 PM

Fair enough. Where on Earth does it talk about the extra cash?

Ryan

MicroBob · #5 12-30-2006, 03:10 PM

It looks like it is extremely easy for the golds and plats to qualify for the weekly $50k.

I really doubt the freeroll EV has gone up.

I'm not too heart-broken about that though.

SN freeroll value was already getting pretty low anyway.

Right now, Almost 500 Supernovas registered for the last of the old-format weekly freerolls.

mbpoker · #6 12-30-2006, 03:10 PM

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Fair enough. Where on Earth does it talk about the extra cash?

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You get $2,000 when you reach 200K. That's $1,200 extra cash (50k FPP worth $800 at 1.6c/FPP).
You get $3,000 when you reach 300K. That's extra $2,200. And so on.

ryanghall · #7 12-30-2006, 03:13 PM

Oh, I'm aware of the bonuses. Where is this extra cash you are talking about?

All I can find on the Stars site is information about the bonuses: for example $5,000 at 500,000 VPP

Ryan

Losing all · #8 12-30-2006, 03:14 PM

The bonuses are the extra cash..

4thstreetpete · #9 12-30-2006, 03:14 PM

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300,00 points under the old system-

$16,800 + some crappy freerolls

300,000 points under new system-

$16,800 + some crappy freerolls + $3400 + %75 towards another $3200.

I'm not sure what people were expecting, but this looks like a nice bump to me.

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my brain is not fully awake this morning, can you please explain these numbers?

MicroBob · #10 12-30-2006, 03:20 PM

300k VPP's equals about $16k+ worth of FPP's.

The $3400 extra that you get now is the bonuses.

You don't really get $2000 at 200k and $3000 at 300k.
You have to pay $800 worth of FPP's each time to get these bonuses.

So you are buying $5k in cash for $1600 in FPP's which is where the $3400 number comes from.