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Old 06-08-2007, 11:48 AM
Artsemis Artsemis is offline
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Wasn't Lederer on the orignal witness list?
Where is he?

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Old 06-08-2007, 11:50 AM
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The Bible actually supports gambling? Great comment! I'd love to see the citations. Anyone know how to get them?

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Old 06-08-2007, 11:51 AM
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anyone have a list of which sites are regulated by the UK and which aren't? Just the major players would work. PP, PS, FTP, ongame, etc.

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UK regulation is only possible from sept 2007. Currently all sites are outside the UK for their regulation.
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:51 AM
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Is Bachus agaisnt us or just being naive? I am unable to watch.

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a quote from wikipedia

""There have been studies by Harvard University, University of Pennsylvania, McGill University in Canada, American Psychiatric Association -- all of these say the younger someone starts gambling, the more likelihood that they become a compulsive gambler. Addicted to gambling, just like addicted to drugs. So there is a correlation between drug dealers and gambling sites." - October 2006, CNN"

-spencer bachus

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I sent him a letter last month:

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The Honorable Spencer Bachus
2246 Rayburn Building
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Congressman Bachus:

I’ve been following your efforts to restrict the ability of Americans to choose play Internet poker and other casino games in the privacy of their own homes. I’d like to share with you my humble opinion on the matter.

By way of introduction, I’m an engineer with one of the nation’s larger companies. After a long day at work, I enjoy playing a little poker on occasion, and I prefer playing in the comfort of my own home with my wife at my side to playing in a smoky casino. I happen to be skilled enough at the game to win significantly more than I lose, but that’s not really the point. Poker is an enjoyable game of skill, much as golfing or fishing. In fact, poker is one of the great American pastimes. Presidents, generals, Supreme Court Justices, members of Congress and average Americans have enjoyed the game for more than 150 years. It’s an honorable game.

As a fellow Republican, I share some of the concerns you’ve mentioned about online gambling. However, it’s not obvious that federal laws restricting our freedoms and liberties will solve these issues. After all, online gambling will continue internationally. In fact, the WTO has recently ruled the U.S. violated international trade law by prosecuting online gambling cases. As such, I urge you to support the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act of 2007 (HR 2046).

HR 2046 provides real regulation, rather than a porous prohibition. A regulated Internet gambling environment will facilitate age verification and collection of federal and state taxes. It will also reduce any potential vulnerability of gambling websites to being used for money laundering, drug trafficking, or terrorist financing. With regulation, potential problems can be controlled without taking freedoms from Americans. After all, Russians and Eastern Europeans can gamble online; it seems the U.S. should trust its citizens at least as much as Russia trusts theirs, right?

On the topic of freedom, it seems the Republican Party has chosen to be the party of social conservatism only. The party now supports big government as long as it promotes the party’s social agenda. As such, it appears limited-government Goldwater/Reagan Republicans like myself are no longer welcome in the party. However, without us, it’s hard to see how the Republican Party can be a majority party again. Do you like being in the minority, as you are today? What happens when a libertarian-conservative Democrat runs against you on a platform of a smaller federal government? Ironic (at least at one time), but very foreseeable now. As an aside, when that does happen, the way things stand now he’ll likely receive a lot of donations from poker players around the nation. Also, many younger voters will wake up and turn out like they did against Rep. Leach.

Proponents of online gambling prohibition often mention endorsements UIGEA received from some in the religious community, some family groups, some financial services groups and some professional sports organizations. I hope you’ll consider the fact that these groups do not necessarily represent the majority of voters in our nation (or even the majority of Alabama Republicans). As for religious and family groups, there is no prohibition against gambling in the Bible. As a Christian, I personally find it offensive that so many so-called religious folks are willing to give away our freedoms, especially in pursuit of a goal not even defined in the Bible. As for financial services groups, some credit card issuers may like UIGEA (due only to the risk of losing players refusing to pay up), but I don’t believe banks wish to be the enforcers of UIGEA. As a result, I think you’ll find financial services groups to be net losers as a result of UIGEA. Finally, I believe the concerns of the major professional sports organizations relate only to sports betting. A regulated online gambling environment, like the one created by HR 2046, addresses that concern.

Online gambling will continue to exist with or without the participation of the United States. We’re losing our opportunity to control the games via regulation as well as the opportunities for U.S. companies to operate the games both domestically and internationally. This is costing America jobs and tax revenue.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,

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Old 06-08-2007, 11:52 AM
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The representative from Kansas City, who is against "illegal gambling," said the Bible was actually pro gambling, and had many references within it. The Baptist pastor shook his head in agreement. So apparently it is so. Again, love to see citations. It might me the most powerful even though non-logical arguments we could cite. Can you imagine quoting the Bible in defending poker against the moralistic crusaders!
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:52 AM
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Default Re: House Committee to Hold Internet Gambling Hearing 6/8

THAT DEMENTIA RIDDEN OLD LADY IS A FREAKIN CONGRESSWOMAN?
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:53 AM
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LOL @ this woman up there with a mouthful of hard candy.
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:53 AM
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so far im optimistic , but whats the next step? any1 know?
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:53 AM
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Can anyone sum up the names, organization (and where relevant) position of the central figures? Thanks.
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default Re: House Committee to Hold Internet Gambling Hearing 6/8

What exactly will happen if this bill is passed or not passed? What happens if it is passed? What happens if it is not passed?
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