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Old 09-19-2007, 01:01 PM
rubenrtv rubenrtv is offline
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Default 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

No real history with villain. Should I cbet and how much?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t5000 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t36256)
Hero (t85312)
SB (t91434)
BB (t56998)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t15000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t10000.

Flop: (t26500) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero ?
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:08 PM
AC-Cobra AC-Cobra is offline
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

Bet another 15 here, obv fold to a push and get it check fold mode to a flat call.
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Old 09-20-2007, 10:03 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

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Bet another 15 here, obv fold to a push and get it check fold mode to a flat call.

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This is terrible advice. Why do we want to put more than 1/3rd of our stack in the pot and then fold to what could very well be a bluff? You need to have a plan BEFORE you raise pre-flop. Check-fold is probably the best line to take, pushing all-in is also fine. Bet-folding is bad!
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:11 PM
Tackleberry Tackleberry is offline
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

I probably would <u>not</u> c-bet here. If Villain has a hand - like a medium PP - youīll risk a shove as he hasnīt enough chips to call. So what are you doing if he shoves? You had to fold against what as well could be a bluff with KQ or anything else.

On the other hand he wonīt call you with a hand worse than yours. So just check it behind. If Villain bets the river (what I donīt assume) you can evaluate the situation. In this case I wouldnīt be concerned about a PP so much anymore ...
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:33 PM
AC-Cobra AC-Cobra is offline
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

Im c-betting purely to take this pot down, if the guy has the balls to push with a bluff then good luck to him he can have it. Are we only go c-bet 4 handed if we have something??
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

That's a nice flop to cbet.
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

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I probably would <u>not</u> c-bet here.

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I agree with tackleberry. What are you trying to represent here? I float/reraise/shove a lot with players who c-bet on such dry boards just because they are used to c-bet 95% of the time.
You get pushed here by every PP, flushdraw, straightdraw and even A-high figuring you for being FOS.

Also ... the converter seems to have made a mistake with the potsize. You raised to 15.000 and the BB called, so there can't be 26.500 in the pot.
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Old 09-19-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

standard c-bet will take this down 75% of the time
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:09 PM
rubenrtv rubenrtv is offline
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

Ok thnx.

1) What size for the cbet?

2) We checked behind: Turn is 3s
Villain bets 20k. Hero has overcard and nfd. Hero's move?
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: 12/180 Final 4, A6 high in position, cbet?

fold b/c your draw is too obvious/no odds
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