($24) 99 in SB BvB. Line check

[Pocketbear]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t40/t80
8 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1270
UTG+1: t1195
MP1: t1780
MP2: t1525
CO: t1630
Button: t1225
Hero: t1380
BB: t3495

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
6 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t240</font>, BB calls t160 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t280)</font>.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t480, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t240</font>, Hero folds.

No specific reads on the villain.

[kamel]

You make a lot of posts, but you don't have usually reads, that can't be good online.

In your case, without reads your line is fine, probably you could also complete+steal-postflop, but I like your line. But I don't like you having a readless villain.

[sippin_criss]

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You make a lot of posts, but you don't have usually reads, that can't be good online.

In your case, without reads your line is fine, probably you could also complete+steal-postflop, but I like your line. But I don't like you having a readless villain.

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If you're playing a lot of tables and don't have a HUD it comes down to a) villain is a solid reg, or b) villain is terrible until proven otherwise. That is usually good enough at these stakes.

I'd c-bet this here a lot, he can have anything and checking to him just invites him to take it away with Q5s.

[chuckpalms04]

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You make a lot of posts, but you don't have usually reads, that can't be good online.

In your case, without reads your line is fine, probably you could also complete+steal-postflop, but I like your line. But I don't like you having a readless villain.

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If you're playing a lot of tables and don't have a HUD it comes down to a) villain is a solid reg, or b) villain is terrible until proven otherwise. That is usually good enough at these stakes.

I'd c-bet this here a lot, he can have anything and checking to him just invites him to take it away with Q5s.

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i disagree. you can't just assume your opponent is terrible if you've never seen him before. chris ferguson suggests assuming everyone you play against is a good player unless they prove otherwise, and i think that too might be a little far to the other side, but not far off. i do however think something like a pahud is very important for playing online, and i wouldn't suggest multi-tabling without it.

that said, if you did have reads on villain in this hand, it would be much more helpful. if he's known to be aggro you could limp with the intention of limp/rr, but against an unknown, i like your line. i don't mind not putting any more chips in the pot when we're oop and the flop could have definitely hit our opponent.

[sippin_criss]

Unless he is a reg it's far more likely he's terrible than he's good. It's a low limit sng, it's not a random opinion, it's a fact that in general everyone sucks. Your last point is such weak play, you're saying if you ever raise preflop and you don't hit it hard just c/f because villain might have something that hit the flop. The fact that he just flat-called the raise already shows he's bad, given that, he can easily be calling with a wide range. You're probably not folding any better hands but you don't have much showdown value, so the only way to win the hand is to bet.

[chuckpalms04]

the problem here is a proper c-bet has between 40 and 45% of our stack in the pot, and having to fold after that leaves us in an awful position. if we have more chips i don't mind c-betting, but because we're short and we're oop, getting called sucks because he could be floating us with a huge range of hands, anything from top pair or 2nd pair to 2 broadways 2 any 2 spades or even 33-88.

another thing to consider is that bb has a huge stack, and apparently we don't know how he got them. players with large stacks tend to float flops more often than players with short stacks because they can afford to do it to pick up a smallish pot. just a few things to think about.