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Old 09-27-2007, 04:11 AM
Tuomash Tuomash is offline
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Default NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

Hero ($885.70)
Button ($178.00)
SB ($648.75)
BB (Villain)($657.00)

Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero raise to $24
Button calls
SB calls
BB calls

Pot($96)
Flop 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB checks
BB bets $48
Hero calls
Button folds
SB folds

Pot ($192)
Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

BB checks
Hero bets $96
BB instantly raises to $384

What should hero do, it is $288 to call in a ~$650 pot? BB is laggy, seems to be pretty good player.
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

raise flop?
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Old 09-27-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

This may be trivial but anyway:
It looks like a missed bet-3bet om flop.

If he is laggy enough to play many draws and pair+draw hands like this, I probably push turn since it bricked.

If he usually 3bets 88 and 99 in position 4 handed it becomes an even easier push I think, then we are only really worried about 33 and 89 and ahead of a billion draws.
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Old 09-27-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

Meh I don't get away, especially given your bet sizing. I'd bet more on the turn. Flop call is fine.
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:37 AM
w_alloy w_alloy is offline
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

The good odds you are getting are somewhat mitigated by the awkward stack sizes. After his raise he has 201 left, so this is push/fold.

Against many players I would fold, but I would push this against a laggy pretty good player. I think on this board with this line there is way more semi-bluffing hands then sets and 2 pair in his range.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:32 AM
JFsports JFsports is offline
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

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Meh I don't get away, especially given your bet sizing. I'd bet more on the turn. Flop call is fine.

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Old 09-27-2007, 09:33 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

Whats so good about the flop call? We're pricing in so much [censored] to outdraw us its crazy.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:32 AM
ChrisV ChrisV is offline
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

Often flop calls in similar spots are OK but 4 ways I'd raise. Turn sucks but I'd go ahead and stack off.
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

you can't bet half pot on the turn and then fold
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Old 09-27-2007, 12:17 PM
KvGalen KvGalen is offline
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Default Re: NL 600 QQ in a drawy board

flop is fine now either check or bet/call the turn especially if you bet halfpot
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